Panel screenshots of KC-135E (pre Pacer Crag)

[derekprz]

Here are the pre Pacer Crag and CFM mod panel from the KC-135E download.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

JEEZE !!!! .... these are equally "IMPRESSIVE".

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[bone184]

I use a panel like this for my pre Pacer Crag 135's. For the 135's that don't have a boom I removed the Boom Operator's view in the panel.cfg

[p3aewguy]

Derek,

Is this panel available anywhere?

P3aewguy

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Derek,

Is this panel available anywhere?

P3aewguy

YEP !!!!

With it's sister panel (above) .... this one's also available on FLIGHTSIM.COM too.

Again just search "CHUCK GRIMES".

Again the file is in 2 parts .... principal file ..... then update .... and agai you must download both files.

FYI .... I'm still checking-out these panels (God .... when I can find time that is) with a view to "maybe" trying to do something with them here.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[George Carty - HJG]

I thought about making KC-135 panels, but came across a major problem.

MSFS refuses to use fuel from a MAIN tank if the equivalent AUX tank is not empty. For this reason I had to use CENTER2 and CENTER3 tanks to represent the inner wing tanks on my 707 panel series. (I also use the MAIN designations for the outer reserve tanks and AUX for the outer mains).

However, I cannot do this with the KC-135's as these aircraft have real Center2 and Center3 tanks, in addition to all the wing tanks.

[christrott]

George, there is a way around that.

You can add Center 3 and Center 4. These then become the Main 2 and Main 3 tanks and Center 1, 2, & 3 become the Body Tanks and Center Wing tank respectively. The real KC-135 doesn't typically use the Body Tanks for anything other than offload, so it should help simplify the fueling system somewhat even though the Air Refueling Manifold can be lined to allow the Body Tanks to feed the engines or the wing tanks to feed the Refuelling Boom.

The fuel system on the KC-135 is slightly different than on most airplanes. All of the fuel from the wings (the 6 tanks) and the Center Wing tank are fed into a wing fuel manifold and then routed form there to the engines. This allows for one set of valves to do all of the work from one location instead of 5 (one for each main wing tank and 1 for the center wing tank) as is the case on many more modern aircraft. There is then a second manifold, the Air Refueling Manifold that routes fuel from the body tanks or (if so configured) the Wing Manifold to the Air Refueling Boom. There is a valve on each manifold that allows the fuel to be routed from any tank in the wing through the wing manifold into the air refueling manifold and out the refueling boom either to be used by a receiver or to be jettisoned (the refueling boom is the fuel dump system).

The other issue is that to make the KC-135 panel fully useful there would need to be an air refueling gauge that when activated only pulls fuel out of the body tanks as the only ones I've seen empty all tanks evenly.

I know the guys over at FFDS were discussing some of the ways around the issue several months ago. Maybe posting over there would be of some help?