Boeing 707 panel problems

[richardh]

Hi,
I have two problems, can anyone help?

1.)I downloaded your B707-138B "1965" panel, I installed the gauges, and changed the panel to the FSX one. However, sometimes the engines cut out when I click panel view. Does anyone know any fixes, triyng to restart them doesn't work, nor does going into another plane and trying to start them.

2.)When I try to get up to 25,000 feet, at around 22,500 feet, the engines cut out.

[George Carty - HJG]

You need to go to the Flight Engineer's panel and switch on the fuel booster pumps. I recommend you download Harerton Dourado's fuel system tutorial to learn more about the 707 fuel system...

[richardh]

Thanks, I'll have a look.
Had a look, then tried using fuel booster pumps when engines decided to cut out, problem is, the fuel pump switches were already on, and not doing much help

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

ALSO .... re engine starting procedures please refer to my posting on the "ABOUT HJG AIRCRAFT" forum page .... in particular kindly study the posting entitled "B707 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES".

Within this posting you'll find extensive information regarding our B707/720/C135 handling characteristics .... as well as a complete engine startup tutorial as well.

The reason why you engines are shutting down passing through FL220 to FL25) is likely because you've not activated the BOOSTER PUMPS located on the F/E panel.

These should/must be switched on when passing through FL175.

Everything works fine (or we wouldn't offer it here) .... folk have just got to take time to learn the old girl properly !

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[richardh]

Thanks for that info, is there anyway to get the takeoff checklist into the FSX kneeboard? One other problem, I can find the autopilot alt hold switch, but I can't find where to increase the dsired altitude.

[George Carty - HJG]

The 707's altitude hold only holds the present altitude. To climb you must disengage altitude hold, then use the pitch wheels to change the vertical speed to climb or descend, then re-engage altitude hold when you reach your desired altitude.

[richardh]

Thanks you guys, I've finally got the hang of the autopilot, and starting the engines. There's still one problem though, you know the overspeed alarm in the Learjet 45? Well, I'm getting that, even though it doesn't say overspeed in the corner. Am I overspeeding?
EDIT: Had a look through the sound files in the core files, it sounds like it's HJG_B707_horn, is that the overspeed? If not, how can I turn it off. The alarm's giving me a headache.

[George Carty - HJG]

That's the pressurization warning - ensure that your fuel bleeds and/or turbocompressors are on (flight engineer panel).

(By the way, if anyone has a WAV file of the actual pressurization warning, could they let me know please?)

[richardh]

I have another problem: I was cruising, I was about half-way through my flight, I had autopilot on, then I went downstairs. When I came back, the plane was out of control, the engines were off, but the autopilot was on. I had enough fuel, so what went wrong?

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

so what went wrong?

I'm buggered if I know .... I wasn't there ! ;D

There's 2 possibilities I can think of immediately ....

1. Either you forgot to activate the the BOOSTER switches on the F/E panel .... and might have experienced a delayed shutdown of all 4 engines.

2. Whilst you were downstairs ..... you might have run dry on the particular tanks you were drawing/feeding from .... and then flamed out on all 4.

I think the latter (#2) scenario is the most likely possibility.

These are .... admittedly .... very complex panels. I urge folk to study our HANDLING NOTES to get a good basic understanding of how these aircraft perform.

More importantly here though .... it might pay you to download and study our FUEL MANAGEMENT TUTORIAL .... also available from our B707 downloads page.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[richardh]

What would be handy is if a Flight Data Recorder was created for FSX, like the ones in real life. Then I might be able to see what went wrong.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I still reckon your problem/experience is likely simply the result of having sucked dry the particular tanks you were feeding from.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[richardh]

The problem is, well I was doing a test flight from Washington D.C. to JFK, and my engines still cut out.

[bober]

I greet the first time.
I have problem with E-3C with B707-320/E3-D Carty's panel.During takeoff can be heard importunate calling: "to low, flaps!"(flaps i have 14),
after takeoff:"to low,gear!" Callouts passes away when flaps and gear is up.
Second problem: aircraft during taxi and takeoff turn continuously to the right
(Independently on wind!).All engines work fine(?) and gauges(Instruments) show same values(N1 etc.).
I have not this problem with other aircraft or with this aircraft with another panels(for example default 744).
Probably, I make something wrong
The Startup Procedure?
Best regards and happy holidays,
Wojtek Bobrowski
EPKK,
Poland

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I have problem with E-3C with B707-320/E3-D Carty's panel.During takeoff can be heard importunate calling: "to low, flaps!"(flaps i have 14),
after takeoff:"to low,gear!" Callouts passes away when flaps and gear is up.

I have only heard 2 or 3 examples of this, or a similar, problem over 2 or 3 years

Second problem: aircraft during taxi and takeoff turn continuously to the right
(Independently on wind!).All engines work fine(?) and gauges(Instruments) show same values(N1 etc.).
I have not this problem with other aircraft or with this aircraft with another panels(for example default 744)

Are you certain all engines are actually running .... an asymetric thrust problem is the only thing I can think of that might result in this occurring .... or additionally (and despite you saying this problem doesn't occurr when using this aircraft with the default MSFS B747-400 panel) a controller device callibration issue .... maybe !

Have you tried recallibrating everything both within FS and within you PC system too ?

None of the issues which you have reported should ever occurr .... of course.

Mark C
NZ/AKL