Haven't seen this before ??

[jymp]

Today I've been trying to install the 727-100 but cannot, I know I'm following the correct procedure as I've done this a few times before, even this time went step by step from each read me from each file that needs to be installed, although this time I've noticed theres a file called "B727100F_VL" listed as a" Installer package ", when I click on it it says "Sorry, an error has occured, The application could not be installed because the AIR file is damaged, try obtaining a new AIR file from the application author", could someone help me ? Its the 727-100C I've been trying to install. Edit : Upon further investigation it seems to have had something to do with Adobe, changed it to open with Notepad, but still no 727 in FSX.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

You are talking about files obtained from "THIS" .... the HJG website .... and not similar files abtained from elsewhere .... I trust !

I've noticed theres a file called "B727100F_VL" listed as a" Installer package

That's the AIR.FILE name .... an essential ingredient contained within the AIRCRAFT BASE PACK folder !

However .... none of our files feature "INSTALLERS" and only require being unzipped directly to FS .... or preferrably to a temporary folder outside of FS first .... for the relevent components (files and folders) to all then dragged and dropped over to their respective FS destination folders.

I'm not aware of any problems associated with any of the files we curretly offer here.

It's possible .... for whatever network reason might apply .... for files to become corrupted during downloading processes.

It's also posible that something on your PC may be changing the format of the files once they're unzipped too.

As your query is FSX related .... I really need to leave you in the highly competent hands of my colleague Dan K.HANSEN .... for FSX specific advice.

HOWEVER .... please be advised that Dan is away on vacation until around the 2nd week of July.

Please bear with us !

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[jymp]

Yep, downloaded from the HJG website, might try d/ling again to see what I get, however there was an Adobe update yesterday, maybe that had something to do with it ?

[jymp]

Guess I'll wait for Dan, still no 727 luck.

[Herman]

The 'air file installer package' is indeed the "air file" and is not to be changed in any way.

There is no need to do anything with this file. It is part of the base file following unzipping.

If you still experience problems installing let us know the exact procedure you are using.

Herman

[jymp]

But my AIR file was using Adobe to open it, shouldn't it be using notepad ?, either way no luck getting the 721 to show in FSX

[matsh]

Jul 6, 2010 21:43:26 GMT jymp said:

But my AIR file was using Adobe to open it, shouldn't it be using notepad ?, either way no luck getting the 721 to show in FSX

I'm not sure that I've understood you correctly, but the AIR-file should not be edited. The only file to edit when installing another livery is the file AIRCRAFT.CFG.

From what you have written I haven't been able to figure out if that's what you have been doing. My apologies if I have misunderstood you.
All the best .... Mats

[jymp]

Oh no, I haven't edited it at all just after I downloaded it I noticed it wasn't displayed in Notepad as the .cfg file was, which I thought was odd, I clicked on the AIR file but it wouldn't open, It said "Sorry, an error has occured" so I Googled what it said and it was some type of Adobe error, and since I had a Adobe Reader update the day before I'm guessing that had something to do with it, today I deleted it and redownloaded it, this time it displays in notepad as it should, gonna try to install it and see what happens this time.

[jymp]

Ok, still no luck installing the 727-100C with the Piedmont 1967 textures, here's my attempted installation:
1. D/L Base pack files, unzip to a temp folder on my desktop, copy VL HJG B727-100c.v1.2 to "Sim Objects - Airplanes" folder, delete "aircraft.cfg" and rename "aircraft_fsx.cfg to "aircraft.cfg".

2. D/L "b727-100c_piedmont_1967_051c_n7270c", unzip to temp folder on desktop, copy "texture.piedmont_1967_051c_n7270c" to "VL HJG B727-100c" folder, copy "add to aircraft" section to "aircraft.cfg" with [fltsim.0].

3. D/L "rp_hjg_panel_b727-100_late", installed sub folder "panel.b727-100_late" into FSFSCONV folder, entered the folder "panel.b727-100_late" and renamed "panel.cfg" to"panel_fs2004.cfg" and renamed "panel_fsx.cfg" to "panel.cfg", then aliased the "[fltsim] alias=fsfsconv\panel.b727-100_late" in the PANEL file in notepad.

4. Then put the Core\ Guages files into the FSX Guages folder. Following the read me's step by step.

[jymp]

I know I'm overlooking something, done it this way at least 3 times before, any help would be appreciated.

[Herman]

It is quite obvious to me that you are not following the correct installation procedure as outlined in the instructions.

I am not sure why you are using "notepad". Following "unzipping" to a temporary folder the whole aircraft folder containing Model, Panel, Sound , Airfile and Aircraft CFG is placed in your FSX Aircraft folder.

Some times the Aircraft folder also contains a sub-folder and then this sub-folder is used.

The only time I need to use "notepad" is when I am adding the different "textures".

Please review the installation instructions again and follow them to the letter. All worked OK for me.

Herman

[jymp]

The .cfg files have always displayed in notepad, from every a/c I've ever installed. and I am following the correct procedure from each read me, you need to re-read my post.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

you need to re-read my post.

"JYMP" .... whilst I'm perfectly cognizant of the frustrsation these issues can impose .... people here "ARE" trying to assist you.

The long and short of all this is .... "IF" instrutions are followed correctly (to the letter) .... and "IF" things are then properly installed accordingly .... then such issues as are being discussed here will not/cannot arise and everything will appear and function well within FS .... and without any problems/issues at all.

There must be some very "basic" step/procedure that your're possibly either not following correctly, or, misinterpreting.

This can an does happen .... occasionally !

One thing I do want you to do .... please ..... is to copy & paste "HERE/BELOW" the complete [FLTSIM.XX] portion (add to aircraft data) for the B727-100 texture/s which you're trying to install.

I want to see precisely what you've got there !

We'll take this "STEP BY STEP" .... if you don't mind.

I've already stated that our FSX EXPERT is away on vacation at this time and won't be back until later next week .... and .... that I'm not an FSX'er myself .... so .... my ability to assist your query is linmited in that respect. However .... my above request "WILL" help trubleshoot your particular issue in this basic/preliminary process of elimination in respect of other comon and known potential issues.

Your co-operation will be appreciated !

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[jymp]

Here ya go

//727-100C/F/QC
//Add your [fltsim.xx] sections here.
//Remember to start with 0 (zero).
//Copyright Historic Jetliners Group. No uploading to any website without prior approval.
//April 2009

[fltsim.0]
title=Vistaliners Boeing 727-100C Piedmont Airlines 1967
sim=B727100F_VL
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=piedmont_1967_051c_n7270c
atc_id=N7270C
atc_parking_codes=AES
atc_heavy=0
atc_flight_number=100
atc_airline=PIEDMONT
ui_manufacturer=Boeing
ui_type=727-100C
ui_variation=Piedmont Airlines (1967)
description=One of the most successful commercial jet airliners ever designed. Production totaled 1,831 aircraft between 1963 and 1984. \n\n Repaint by Phil BEHREND
visual_damage=1
atc_id_color=0x00000000
atc_id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0
id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

That's what I wanted to see !

Your CFG/ADD TO AIRCRAFT data looks to be correct on th basis of standard FSX conventions .... but .... I've added a couple of other FSX data entries to this which I'd now like you to try and which are as follows ....

//727-100C/F/QC
//Add your [fltsim.xx] sections here.
//Remember to start with 0 (zero).
//Copyright Historic Jetliners Group. No uploading to any website without prior approval.
//April 2009

[fltsim.0]
title=Vistaliners Boeing 727-100C Piedmont Airlines 1967
sim=B727100F_VL
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=piedmont_1967_051c_n7270c
atc_id=N7270C
atc_parking_codes=AES
atc_parking_types=CARGO,RAMP,GATE
atc_heavy=0
atc_flight_number=100
atc_airline=PIEDMONT
ui_manufacturer=Boeing
ui_type=727-100C
ui_variation=Piedmont Airlines (1967)
ui_typerole=Commercial Airliner
ui_createdby=Historic Jetliners Group
description=One of the most successful commercial jet airliners ever designed. Production totaled 1,831 aircraft between 1963 and 1984. \n\n Repaint by Phil BEHREND
visual_damage=1
atc_id_color=0x00000000
atc_id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0
id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0

This may not make any difference to your case, but, it's worth a "TRY".

OH .... and .... just make sure you haven't still got a valid file/component still contained within another containing folder from the original ZIP file too.

The folder (aircraft base pack) which you have installd within FS is the one named as follows ....

VL HJG B727-100C.v1.2

.... and which contains the MODEL, and both default PANEL and SOUND folders, along with the AIRCRAFT.CFG (to which your texture/add to aircraft data must be added), and the AIR.FILE Your TEXTURE folder needs to be added to this lot .... as I'm sure you're perfectly aware. It's just that there has, in the past, been a few instances where people have inadvertently ended up with valid folders still contained within other containing folders from the original ZIP file and which does, of course, result in aircraft not then being recognized/displayed by FS.

Failing this .... and remembering I'm not an FSX'er myself, I must, again, ask that you to await Dan's return and attention.

Mark C
AKL/NZ