The Caravelle in FSX

[bede]

Apr 20, 2012 22:09:06 GMT aerofoto - HJG Admin said:

Again .... even in FSX (and despite the fact the CARAVELLE wasn't designed for this sim version) .... I've never, previously, heard of any of the issues being reported you.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

Thanks Mark,

I know it's dificult to understand, but it happened, and I can't pilot the CARAVELLE with my joystick. Once, I couldn't take off with the joystick and using the ctrl+K, say nerviously, the joystick took the commands in the air

I'll try again and again

Thanks

Bernard

[Alejandro]

It sound to me like an almost broken joystick cables, or someting you ran that it's interfering with the joystick.
I'll say reset the computer and go straight to FSX and Caravelle. Or, about the cable, check it phisically

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

And I presume you've also set a few degtees of Elevator Trim .... prior to commencing your T/O roll ?

I wonder if you may have a stuck Trim settingcontrol on your Joystick/controller device !!!!

There's no problem associated with the joystick (or other control device) controllability of these, or most other FS aircraft either, between FS2004 and FSX .... other than some form of "potentially" major problem with the controller device itself, or, its set up/configurationb .... and more-so too if it's worked fine a few times prior to your report before, apparently, suddenly not, now, working at all

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[bede]

Alejandro, Mark,

Thank you very much for your help, but I think I have a Gremling in my computor o my CARAVELLE

My joystick works very well with all my planes, even the HJG 707 and 727, no problems.

I made a reset of my computor and >>I could take off without the voice who says 80 knuts, V1 and rotate, I could manage to turn and some minutes later the joystick stop to comand the plane. Yesterday it happened the same thing.

The CARAVELLE accepts the joystick comand for a while, and then nothing. It doesn't happened suddently, the moving partes move from zero to my comand (like a flag in the wind) and then the moving partes return to zero and my joystick does move nothing

Sorry for my bad english,

Thank you very much

Bernard

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I think I have a Gremling in my computor o my CARAVELLE

Again .... I'd look more closely at your PC .... or rather .... your controller device "in particular" .... bcause (as I seem to keep saying) it's there, somewhere, I believe you'll find the root cause of your problem/s.

You're the first to, ever, report these/such issues (as this support forum will confirm), but, "NOTHING" you've reported here should be a result of trying to use these simulations in FSX .... despite the fact "these CARAVELLE simulations "ARE NOT", yet, FSX certified" .... as I also keep saying ;D

Despite this though .... any FSX incompatibility of these CARAVELLE simulations should be limited to possibly just panel gauge indications, interior panel views, and the smoke effects data.

"IF" one "IS NOT" using these particular custom panels/gauges .... then one, may, possibly, get away with being able to fly these CARAVELLE simulations in FSX .... using default FSX panel assignments .... BUT ONCE AGAIN .... and beyond these basic statements .... I'm not prepared to offer FSX support for any product offered by us, here, and which I say, repeatedly, doesn't, yet, have an FSX compatibility endorsement.

Sorry if I appear appear to be "harping" .... but .... as much as I keep on saying that the CARAVELLE "IS NOT FSX COMPATIBLE" .... people seem to continue asking FSX related questions about it ;D

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[bede]

Mark,

Before entering the forum I read all the HJG forum in order to find a solution to my problem, so I knew and know the Caravelle wasn't FSX compatible. I enter the forum because I thought a forum was a place where you exchange things, ideas, problems and where you could kindly enconter help. I was wrong and I must apologise if I bother you.

When I changed FS9 to FSX I read a lovely post from Dan K Hansen, so kindly, "one way to install HJG in FSX. I was wrong thinking all tne contributors were like Dan. I'm sorry, so sorry.

Dont be affraid Mark you won't see me anymore on HJG, my gran'mother teached me not disturbing important people. She was absolutely right.

Sorry, so sorry

Best regards

Bernard

[Dan K. Hansen]

Don't worry Bernard ....
Do you by any chance have FSUIPC installed too? it sometimes have a tendency to tamper with the Joystick setting/configuration ....

Or try to make a back-up of you FSX.cfg and delete it, letting FSX generate a new one upon the next re-start .....

I'm not using joysticks myself, but I do know that quite a few are, and perhaps if we are a bit patient, someone will show up with a similar issue.

It is my strong believe that FSX is not so far away from FS9 as some try to make it look like ...

Others have had the Caravelle working perfectly in FSX, so why not you .... wheter or not it will be with the joystick or not .....

And I think that we are all well aware that the Caravelle is not build for FSX, but neither are our Boeings or Douglas' some are even build as long time a go as fs2002 or fs98 .... And of course we will also try to help you out instead of just saying that we don't give FSX support ......

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I simply stated that I, "personally", aren't prepared to offer FSX support (or even encourage FSX use) "until the CARAVELLE becomes FSX compatible" .... at least more-so than it currently is.

It's my understanding .... from recent communications .... that the CARAVELLE project "MAY" be upgraded for FSX compatibility "in the future", but, there's "absolutely no time frame on this".

In the meantime .... my stance has only been motivasted by the fact that I do, seem, to need to repeat it so often (both on and off forum .... which does, admittedly, get a wee bit irritating after a while .... since time/Time/"TIME", for me at least, is often extremly limited) .... and also because it's my own, "personal desire" to ensure folk aren't ever under any doubt or false impressions .... simply because, it seems, to me, that "full FSX compatibility" in the minds of some folk versus that of the team whom actually produced the CARAVELLE appear to be "QUITE DIFFERENT".

If things were otherwize then they wouldn't be considering "POSSIBLY" doing what I've stated "MAY" be happening later .... would they !!!!

To this extent .... I do stand by my comments and which I feel/maintain are the right/correct acknowledgement .... and in doing so .... I'm only looking after (trying to at least) the CARAVELLE teams interests !

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Alejandro]

Bernard... If we... in some moment... had wrote to you "we are perfect, you are a poor men" then I will say that you are right saying that we feel too important for you.

But read again, and there are three pages of sugestions trying to help you to solve your problem. We beleave the problem will be the joystick, the computer, the FSUIPC, but never NEVER we said that you are wrong and you are bothering us.

[bede]

Dan,

Thank you very much for your kindly answer.

Yes I have the FSUIPC installed. I will try your advice with the FSX.cfg, maybe one day we will kill the Gremling.

Thank you very much again

Bernard

[bede]

Alejandro,

Don't worry, I apreciate your help when you told me to have a look to my joystick and to reset my computer. I follow your advices. Next time we will succeed. An old frenchy like me love the CARAVELLE, and it was a real happiness to pilot her in FS9

Thank you again for you help and atention

Bernard

[caravelle89]

Help! Mayday! Mayday!
I've download your HJG Caravelle (Caravelle 3 (Late) with Air France texture (1979)). I put it in the Airplanes folder (I use FSX). But there is no Caravelle in the menu (where you choose a plane).

I'm dissapointed.

I want to know if the Caravelle is really compatible with FSX because I want to pilot it.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

As I seem to keep repeating ;D

We know people have installed these CARAVELLE simulations into FSX according to standard FSX aircraft installation protocols .... BUT .... they are FS2004 (only) simulations.

See the HJG FSX SUPPORT forum page if you're having any difficulties in this respect (there's about 3 ways to install aircraft in FSX) .... but remember .... "at this time" I don't/can't provide FSX support for any of these CARAVELLE simulations.

It's known they do, apparently, display and fly OK within FSX though .... albeit with one or two minor panel glitches.

Given the interest these CARAVELLE simulations have generated and the number of FSX queries that have prevailed .... all I've ever "TRIED" to communicate in regard to FSX and these particular files in the past is as follows ....

I can (will) provide FS2004 support for these simulations, but, can't (won't) provide FSX support .... until such a time as FSX compatible versions of these files are completed and supplied for HJG hosting.

It must be remembered .... these CARAVELLE simulations are property of the ALLIED FLIGHT GROUP .... "not HJG" .... therefore HJG has no authority nor influence over such development/redevelopment of these files.

HJG only provides the CARAVELLE with "a home" .... and with "FS2004 support" too of course.

Although AFG might, now, be out of existence .... it's my understanding that FSX versions these of simulations (the panels at least) "MAY" be under development by members of the original AFG CARAVELLE project team .... but .... I'm not prepared to encourage these developers to hurry progress .... SO THEN .... if these FSX develpments do, in future, happen then they'll happen, but, in their "own good time".

I know this's not, really, what you/anyone else interested in these CARAVELLE simulations wants to know .... but .... that's all I can tell everyone "HONESTLY"

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[walterleo]

Hi: If the joystick is a MS Sidewinder and your System is WIN7 it could also be a problem, as MS doesn't support anymore the Sidwinder in WIN7. For me with WIN7 and FS9 the Sidwinder still works at least with simulations with their own no standard joystick installation. Sometimes with FS stock joystick installation (as the Caravelle) some functions don't work.
Kind regards

Walter