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Post by rallymodeller on Mar 30, 2011 21:07:25 GMT
It's not a huge issue, as I can use the VOR Locator function as well as the next guy, but is there a mode to couple the GPS with the autopilot? I noticed a GPS flag pop up on the artificial horizon once when flipping between the main panel and the minipanel (appeared on the right center of the "ball"), but have not been able to see it since and was wondering if there was a way to turn it on.
Just wondering, nothing really important...
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 30, 2011 21:39:19 GMT
Given the fact that each of these CARAVELLE panels are GPS equipped .... I guess GPS NAV must somehow couple with the AP .... BUT TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU .... I've never actually tried it .... simply because never, ever, use the GPS system supplied with any FS panel .... not even for reference only purposes.
I've alwys navigated strictly by the use VOR to VOR NAV .... or .... by DEAD RECKONING .... or .... by using a combination of both.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Herman on Mar 31, 2011 2:35:33 GMT
Most Autopilots that I am familiar with and I believe that is also the case with the Caravelle, can be coupled to a GPS provided that there is a GPS\NAV switch.
Once the switch is placed to the GPS position and the radio is tuned to a VOR frequency the Autopilot function switch has to be placed in the VOR\Localizer positon for everything to work properly.
Herman
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 31, 2011 19:46:59 GMT
Unless I've missed something .... The CARAVELLE AP's don't seem to have a specific GPS NAV switch/option, so, the GPS provided may just be there for reference value only.
Having said this though .... there are a number of silent hot-spots around the left, bottom, and right peripheries of each CARAVELLE panel with command sub panels into view .... and which do also vary considerably among these CARAVELLE panels.
Whether or not any GPS NAV switch/option is located on any of these sub panel views .... I know not .... at this stage.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by rallymodeller on Mar 31, 2011 21:00:40 GMT
Well, I'm gonna give it a try tonight, but this afternoon (using FS Panel Studio) I put a "GPS-Nav" switch on the panels -- the 6R UA version and Tunis Air 3 Late -- and if the flag pops up again I'll make it an invisible switch. Then I'll get in contact with M. Guarant to see if he'll allow it as a downloadable panel mod.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 31, 2011 22:16:24 GMT
Since these panel were made by Mr GAUTANT for AFG .... then technically speaking .... you should communicate directly with Esa KAIHLANEN/AFG .... since these are, essentially, their/AFG's product.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Esa Kaihlanen - HJG Guest on Apr 1, 2011 8:39:22 GMT
Hello,
Mark was correct in his earlier reply, stating that the GPS might be included in the panels as a convenience and additional reference only. There is no GPS-Autopilot coupling modeled in the Caravelle panels, so you indeed need to rely on the old fashioned navigation methods.
If someone wishes to add such a coupling by adding the AP/GPS switch please go ahead, but also please do understand that we are unable to offer any support for that. I do not know if Benoit's autopilot code uses standard FS functions or not... Therefore, adding the switch might or might not work.
-Esa
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Post by rallymodeller on Apr 1, 2011 16:20:30 GMT
Hello, Mark was correct in his earlier reply, stating that the GPS might be included in the panels as a convenience and additional reference only. There is no GPS-Autopilot coupling modeled in the Caravelle panels, so you indeed need to rely on the old fashioned navigation methods. If someone wishes to add such a coupling by adding the AP/GPS switch please go ahead, but also please do understand that we are unable to offer any support for that. I do not know if Benoit's autopilot code uses standard FS functions or not... Therefore, adding the switch might or might not work. -Esa Thanks for replying, and it's great to hear from you -- the Caravelles are some of my favourite FS9 aircraft, free- or payware. As gar as the coupling went -- it worked. Just in reverse. When the switch was in the "nav" position, the GPS flag came up on the artificial horizon (in the 6 panel; no flags were seen in the III panel) and the aircraft followed the GPS track, and vice-versa. Other than that, it worked fine including SID/STAR departures/approaches.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 1, 2011 18:40:06 GMT
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Post by walterleo on Apr 28, 2011 22:45:41 GMT
Given the fact that each of these CARAVELLE panels are GPS equipped .... I guess GPS NAV must somehow couple with the AP .... BUT TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU .... I've never actually tried it .... simply because never, ever, use the GPS system supplied with any FS panel .... not even for reference only purposes. I've always navigated strictly by the use VOR to VOR NAV .... or .... by DEAD RECKONING .... or .... by using a combination of both. Mark C AKL/NZ Did you ever try the KLN90B set of Project Tupolev (it comes with their Tu 154M)? Its so realistic, that you can use the manual of the original thing. After coming over the initial problems it works perfect and it can be coupled to the FS9 heading bug. Walter
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Post by rallymodeller on Apr 29, 2011 0:16:46 GMT
Given the fact that each of these CARAVELLE panels are GPS equipped .... I guess GPS NAV must somehow couple with the AP .... BUT TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU .... I've never actually tried it .... simply because never, ever, use the GPS system supplied with any FS panel .... not even for reference only purposes. I've always navigated strictly by the use VOR to VOR NAV .... or .... by DEAD RECKONING .... or .... by using a combination of both. Mark C AKL/NZ Did you ever try the KLN90B set of Project Tupolev (it comes with their Tu 154M)? Its so realistic, that you can use the manual of the original thing. After coming over the initial problems it works perfect and it can be coupled to the FS9 heading bug. Walter Hmm. Never thought of swapping the stock Garmin 500 with the PT KLN -- I'm very used to it and use it all the time. (PT did a fantastic job). A friend has a real KLN90B in his Piper Archer, so I have had the opportunity to play with the real thing, as it were. Substituting the GPS units in the Caravelle (the 10R especially) sounds like a great, and "prototypical", idea. I also streamlined the GPS switch for the panel: it's now in Overhead 2 hidden on the left (in the dead space left of the light switches), looks like a normal yellow/green warning light.
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Apr 29, 2011 6:35:33 GMT
Screenshots please?
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Post by rallymodeller on Apr 29, 2011 20:31:30 GMT
No problem, I'll have them up later tonight.
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Post by rallymodeller on Apr 29, 2011 23:22:49 GMT
Here are the pics of my solution, shown on the SE-210-10R panel. GPS turned off: ...and GPS turned on: When the GPS is turned on, the aircraft tracks the FS GPS as normal with the autopilot in "VOR/LOC" mode, although the turns are somewhat abrupt. The FD reacts correctly as well. The switch is a standard FS9 gauge; I used FS Panel Studio to place it. For my own satisfaction I might tweak the panel bitmap a bit to make it look like it belongs.
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