B727 panel issue

[prymcik]

Hi, First of all I bow before you at the great product you have created.
The matter of my post is a problem with the B727-100/200 panel I'm having. Since a moth ago the light panel's switched and knobs are unclickable as well as the upper portion of the main panel, including the FD knob. I have tried reinstalling it without any improvement. So I want to know whether someone experienced the same problem and if anyone came up with a solution to it.

Thanks you.
Arkadiusz Prymula

[Mike Monce - HJG]

When you reinstalled the panel did you also reinstall all the gauges? I would delete the panel. Download the panel from HJG along with the gauges, and then reinstall both, overwriting the existing gauges when doing the reinstall.

Mike

[prymcik]

Thanks for a quick response Mike, but I already tried, did it again though but still it isn;t working. I am just wondering if anyone had the same problem. There was no indication of it happening, it just did a month ago and there, i think is nothing I haven't tried yet.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I've never heard of such a problem .... so far as I can recall.

I can only suggest such a problem might be locally based on your own PC/FS installation .... maybe a corrupted gauge set or entire panel folder

I trust you're using files from "this website" and not those from elsewhere .... that includes all of the panel/gauges, and the FDE "we supply here" .... and that you have made no alterations to any of these along the way.

In respect of the panel ....

- Ensure that gauges files are all installed inside the FS9 GAUGES folder

- Ensure that the panel sounds filers are all installed inside the FS9 SOUND folder .... the SOUND folder within the directory of FS9 folders and not the Sound folder inside your aircraft base pack file.

- Ensure that the panel folder is installed inside the FSFSCONV folder .... with the CFG files inside the default Panel folder inside your aircraft base pack is then aliassed back to the FSFSCONV folder.

- All as prescribed in the recommended installation instructions acconmpanying the dowbload.

Also .... asre we talking about an FS2004 or FSX installation here ?


Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Mike Monce - HJG]

Have you had any other problems with any other aircraft/panels?? Also, have you tried any other HJG aircraft?

I'm trying to get info as to whether it's a problem with the 727, or with FS, or with Windows.

I had a problem today where suddenly FS would not recognize my yoke/pedals. They were fine within windows, but FS kept ignoring them. Even tried rebuilding the FS.cfg file. Finally, ended up doing a Windows system restore at a date in the past week when everything was working, and voila! I had it back. Funky things can happen when using FS heavily... data errors in the read/write process.

Mike

[prymcik]

To aerofoto:
It's a FS9 installation on W7 and yes I think I have done everything correctly as it did work before.

Mike, yes indeed I have tried the 707 and there's no issue as well as with other HJGs and the a/c I use like PMDG or iFly. It has to be a solely 727 issue, as it did work fine before.

[Dan K. Hansen]

Do you have any other 727's installed apart from the HJG?
Could you also perhaps copy/paste the content of your panel.cfg file?

[prymcik]

Dan, I have the 727-200 S27 as well and the same problem exists. Here's the panel.cfg contect:
// Panel Configuration file
// Boeing 727-200
// Copyright (c) 2009 Richard Probst, George Carty.

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Landing View
Window02=ADF/XPDR/Weather Radar
Window03=COM/VOR/Autopilot
Window04=Lighting Panel
Window05=Throttle Quadrant
Window06=Battery Switch
Window07=Fuel Panel
Window08=Audio and Trim
Window09=Takeoff Table
Window10=Cruise Table
Window11=Landing Table
Window12=FE Report
Window13=Windscreen Wiper

//------cockpit VIEWS -----------------------------------------------------

Fixed Window30=Forward Right
Fixed Window31=Right
Fixed Window32=Rear Right
Fixed Window33=Rear
Fixed Window34=Rear Left
Fixed Window35=Left
Fixed Window36=Forward Left
Fixed Window37=Up

//------ WINGS AND ENGINES VIEWS ------------------------------------------

Fixed Window40=Forward Left Up // LEFT WING VIEW, LEADING EDGE
Fixed Window41=Forward Right Up // RIGHT WING VIEW, LEADING EDGE
Fixed Window42=Left Up // LEFT WING VIEW, TRAILING EDGE
Fixed Window43=Right Up // RIGHT WING VIEW, TRAILING EDGE
Fixed Window44=Rear Left Up // LEFT WINGTIP VIEW
Fixed Window45=Rear Right Up // RIGHT WINGTIP VIEW

[Views]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,20,COMPASS_PANEL
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=4.0, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=30
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_DIR=0, 0.0, 45
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=31
VIEW_RIGHT_DIR=-2.0, 0.0, 90.0
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=32
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=33
VIEW_REAR_DIR=1.0, 0.0, 200.0
VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=34
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=35
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=36
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_DIR=1.0, 0.0, 315.0
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_UP_WINDOWS=37
VIEW_UP_DIR=-90.0, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_UP_ZOOM=0.85


// The following add passenger views from Kevin Sparkul

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_WINDOWS=40 // LEFT WING VIEW, LEADING EDGE
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 230
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_EYE=0.0, 0.0, -15.50 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_ZOOM=0.50

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_WINDOWS=41 // RIGHT WING VIEW, LEADING EDGE
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 130
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_EYE=1.1, 0.0, -15.50 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_ZOOM=0.50

VIEW_LEFT_UP_WINDOWS=42 // LEFT WING VIEW, TRAILING EDGE
VIEW_LEFT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 285
VIEW_LEFT_UP_EYE=0.0, 0.0, -25.50 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_LEFT_UP_ZOOM=0.50

VIEW_RIGHT_UP_WINDOWS=43 // RIGHT WING VIEW, TRAILING EDGE
VIEW_RIGHT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 75
VIEW_RIGHT_UP_EYE=1.1, 0.0, -25.50 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_RIGHT_UP_ZOOM=0.50

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_WINDOWS=44 // LEFT WINGTIP VIEW
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 300
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_EYE=0.0, 0.0, -28.00 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_ZOOM=0.50

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_WINDOWS=45 // RIGHT WINGTIP VIEW
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_DIR=0.0, 0.0, 60
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_EYE=1.1, 0.0, -28.00 // Adjust last value to move fore and aft
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_ZOOM=0.50


[Window00]
file=Main.bmp
file_1024=Main.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.0
position=0
visible=1
update_rate=20
ident=MAIN_PANEL

gauge00=Rp727_2!panel, 0, 339, 1024
gauge01=Rp727_2!asi, 87, 476, 133
gauge02=Rp727_2!rmi, 107, 604, 111
gauge03=Rp727_2!timer, 4, 603, 105
gauge04=Rp727_2!adi, 226, 449, 166, 156
gauge05=Rp727_2!hsi, 230, 622, 160, 143
gauge06=Rp727_2!altimeter, 472, 498, 99
gauge07=Rp727_2!vsi_tcas, 406, 611, 99
gauge08=Rp727_2!ra, 407, 474, 53
gauge09=Rp727_2!omi, 612, 492, 29
gauge10=Rp727_2!flap_out, 916, 570, 64
gauge11=Rp727_2!flap_in, 915, 647, 64
gauge12=Rp727_2!epr_1, 660, 392,75, ,1
gauge13=Rp727_2!epr_2, 741, 392,75, ,1
gauge14=Rp727_2!epr_3, 822, 392,75, ,1
gauge15=Rp727_2!n1_1,661, 470, 66
gauge16=Rp727_2!n1_2, 741, 470, 66
gauge17=Rp727_2!n1_3, 819, 470, 66
gauge18=Rp727_2!egt_1_100, 661, 548, 66
gauge19=Rp727_2!egt_2_100, 740, 548, 66
gauge20=Rp727_2!egt_3_100, 818, 548, 66
gauge21=Rp727_2!n2_1, 661, 626, 66
gauge22=Rp727_2!n2_2, 740, 626, 66
gauge23=Rp727_2!n2_3, 818, 626, 66
gauge24=Rp727_2!ff_1, 661, 704, 66
gauge25=Rp727_2!ff_2, 740, 704, 66
gauge26=Rp727_2!ff_3, 818, 704, 66
gauge27=Rp727_2!wheel_fire, 682, 282, 45
gauge28=Rp727_2!pneu_brake_handle, 536, 379, 88
gauge29=Rp727_2!pneu_brake_gauge, 917, 479, 64
gauge30=Rp727_2!flap_lights, 985, 624, 36
gauge31=Rp727_2!gear_lights, 923, 374, 78, 80
gauge32=Rp727_2!rev_1, 677, 368, 34
gauge33=Rp727_2!rev_2, 755, 368, 34
gauge34=Rp727_2!rev_3, 837, 368, 34
gauge35=Rp727_2!alt_alert_control, 554, 731, 64
gauge36=Rp727_2!dme2, 419, 732, 77
gauge37=Rp727_2!fire_1, 743, 257, 52
gauge38=Rp727_2!fire_2, 834, 257, 52
gauge39=Rp727_2!fire_3, 919, 257, 52
gauge40=Rp727_2!fd_cont, 555, 285, 121
gauge41=Rp727_2!ap_disc, 185, 446, 29
gauge42=Rp727_2!alt_alert, 525, 475, 32
gauge43=Rp727_2!oil_press_lights, 918, 730, 79
gauge44=Rp727_2!gpws, 46, 477, 38, 39
gauge45=Rp727_2!windshear, 12, 482, 23
gauge46=Rp727_2!spi, 520, 611, 98
gauge47=Rp727_2!marker_switch, 618, 458, 12
gauge48=Rp727_2!eng_fail, 293, 325, 35
gauge49=Rp727_2!apd, 429, 378, 74, 90
gauge50=Rp727_2!fire_test, 980, 311, 44
gauge51=Rp727_2!mach_test, 25, 570, 33, 16
gauge52=Rp727_2!comparator, 237, 418, 116, 22
gauge53=Rp727_2!toggle_lights, 32, 724, 19
gauge54=Rp727_2!toggle_radio, 53, 724, 19
gauge55=Rp727_2!toggle_atc, 74, 724, 19, 19, 0
gauge56=Rp727_2!toggle_gps, 95, 724, 19
gauge57=Rp727_2!toggle_map, 116, 724, 19, 19, 0
gauge58=Rp727_2!toggle_overhead2, 137, 724, 19, 19, 0
gauge59=Rp727_2!toggle_radio2, 158, 724, 19, 19, 0
gauge60=Rp727_2!toggle_fuel, 179, 724, 19
gauge61=Rp727_2!toggle_battery, 200, 724, 19
gauge62=Rp727_2!toggle_landing, 586, 478, 19
gauge63=Rp727_2!toggle_go_around, 586, 498, 19, 19
gauge64=Rp727_2!toggle_auto_taxi, 586, 518, 19, 19
gauge65=Rp727_2!toggle_throttles, 586, 538, 19, 19
gauge66=Rp727_2!toggle_spoilers, 586, 558, 19, 19
gauge67=Rp727_2!toggle_trim, 586, 578, 19
gauge68=Rp727_2!toggle_stairs, 11, 724, 19
gauge69=CFRP727!VT_toggle, 92, 453, 19, 19
gauge70=CFRP727!FP_toggle, 113, 453, 19, 19
gauge71=CFRP727!VL_toggle, 134, 453, 19, 19
gauge72=CFRP727!FE_toggle, 155, 453, 19, 19

[Window01]
file=landing.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
position=0
visible=0
ident=27

gauge00=Rp727_2!panel2, 181, 474, 843
gauge01=Rp727_2!asi, 328, 618, 140, 140
gauge02=Rp727_2!adi2, 476, 588, 176, 169
gauge03=Rp727_2!ap_disc2, 434, 585, 29
gauge04=Rp727_2!gpws2, 282, 616, 42
gauge05=Rp727_2!altimeter, 737, 638, 110
gauge06=Rp727_2!ra, 670, 613, 57
gauge07=Rp727_2!pneu_brake_handle, 797, 504, 104
gauge08=Rp727_2!eng_fail, 641, 455, 40
gauge09=Rp727_2!rev_1, 958, 495, 42
gauge10=Rp727_2!alt_alert2, 797, 614, 35
gauge11=Rp727_2!windshear2,244,620, 27
gauge12=Rp727_2!marker_switch, 895, 596, 14
gauge13=Rp727_2!comparator, 488, 553,125, 23
gauge14=Rp727_2!epr_1, 942, 522, 81, 88, 1
gauge15=Rp727_2!n1_1, 944, 608, 67, 72
gauge16=Rp727_2!egt_1_100,944, 694, 66, 72
gauge17=Rp727_2!apd2, 694, 510, 80, 98
gauge18=Rp727_2!omi2, 889, 633, 29, 86
gauge19=Rp727_2!fd_cont2, 928, 410, 96, 76
gauge20=Rp727_2!toggle_normal,862, 663, 19
gauge21=Rp727_2!toggle_go_around, 862, 683, 19, 19
gauge22=Rp727_2!mach_test, 265, 721, 33, 16
gauge23=Rp727_2!gpws, 1, 1, 1, 1

[Window02]
size_mm=454,262
position=8
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL

gauge00=Rp727_2!adf, 0, 0, 200
gauge01=Rp727_2!transp, 0, 92, 200
gauge02=Rp727_2!radar_controls, 0, 170, 200
gauge03=Rp727_2!radar, 200, 0, 254

[Window03]
size_mm=400, 216
position=2
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=26

gauge00=Rp727_2!ap_client, 0 ,113, 400, 103, 0
gauge01=Rp727_2!radio1, 0,0, 200, 113
gauge02=Rp727_2!radio2, 200, 0, 200, 113

[Window04]
file=lights.bmp
size_mm=1001,225
position=2
visible=0
ident=OVERHEAD_PANEL

gauge00=Rp727_2!lights, 0, 0, 1001

[Window05]
size_mm=260, 364
position=2
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
visible=0
ident=25

gauge00=Rp727_2!throttles, 0, 0, 260, 364
gauge01=Rp727_2!throttles2, 0, 22, 183
gauge02=Rp727_2!flap_handle, 218, 122, 42

[Window06]
size_mm=200, 122
position=8
visible=0
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=24

gauge00=Rp727_2!battery, 0, 0, 200, 122



[Window07]
size_mm=606, 417
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=28

gauge00=Rp727_2!fuel, 0, 0, 606, 417

[Window08]
file=trim.bmp
size_mm=400,460
position=8
visible=0
ident=29

gauge00=Rp727_2!ics_1, 0, 0, 200, 153
gauge01=Rp727_2!ics_2, 200, 0, 200, 153
gauge03=Rp727_2!trim, 0, 153, 400, 311

[Window09]
size_mm=433,149
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=500
window_size= 0.423, 0.194
window_pos= 0.580, 0.810

gauge00=CFRP727!VT_table, 0, 0, 433, 149

// ----------- Landing Chart -------------------------------

[Window10]
size_mm=266,141
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=510

gauge00=CFRP727!VL_table, 0, 0, 266, 141


//------------ FE Report-------------------------------------

[Window11]
size_mm=289, 178
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=520

gauge00=CFRP727!FE_Report, 0, 0, 289, 178

[Window12]
size_mm=382, 195
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=530

gauge00=CFRP727!FP_Report, 0, 0, 382, 195


[Window13]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,470
position=7
visible=1
ident=190
render_3d_window=1
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=rp727_2!wiper, 0,0,1024,400,0
gauge01=rp727_2!wiper, 0,30,956,280,1

[Fixed Window30]
file=FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=30

[Fixed Window31]
file=RIGHT.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=31

[Fixed Window32]
file=REAR_RIGHT.bmp
size_mm=1024
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=32

[Fixed Window33]
file=REAR.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=33

[Fixed Window34]
file=REAR_LEFT.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=34

[Fixed Window35]
file=LEFT.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=35

[Fixed Window36]
file=FORWARD_LEFT.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=36

[Fixed Window37]
file=UP.bmp
size_mm=1024
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=37

gauge00=rp727_2!overhead, 20, 110, 984
gauge01=rp727_2!toggle_overhead2_close, 1005, 0, 19, 19

//------ WINGS AND ENGINES VIEWS --- 40 thru 45 ---------------------------
[Fixed Window40]
file=window_left3.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=40

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Fixed Window41]
file=window_right3.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=41

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Fixed Window42]
file=window_left2.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=42

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Fixed Window43]
file=window_right2.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=43

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Fixed Window44]
file=window_left1.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=44

//-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Fixed Window45]
file=window_right1.bmp
visible=0
nomenu=1
render_3d_window=1
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=45


[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=3590

[AdvDisplay]
Window=171,141,508,19,1,1
HideWindow=No
AutoHide=No
AlsoATIS=No


Day=255,255,255
Night=8,8,8
Luminous=230,230,230

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

It sounds .... to me .... like you've got a corrupted gauge set.

Again .... I'm not aware of any such problem, as you report, affecting any of the B727's .... and .... so far as I'm aware, to date, there's no WINDOWS 7 issues which affect our B727 product .... or any HJG products in FS9.

Your CFG .... so far as I can tell .... is OK too.

Which really then leaves just the gauges set (I have heard of files being corrupted more than once during consecutive or simultanoeous downloads) .... or .... whatever else you might have recently installed that's maybe interacting badly with the B727 panel gauge set .... because .... as you say .... everything worked OK previously.

I doubt that what I'm about to say could be causative of your problem/s .... BUT .... you are using the right panel version/s with the correct aircraft version/s .... aren't you ?

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Dan K. Hansen]

I'm pretty sure that you may not have installed the core-files correctly, or perhaps you thought you had, but Win7 hase prevented you in overwriting the existing ones or something like that.

Are you running under full administrator rights?, did you disable the UAC?

Can you verify the date and timestamps of these two files?
CFRP727.cab: 21/11/2008 21:08
rp727_2.gau: 04/11/2010 21:30

[prymcik]

Dear All
I'm using a B727/100 early with the b727-100 early panel, I will investigate further into the gauges file as there might be a problem hiding in there as I have installed a numerous add-ons which might have corrupted HJG gauges or interfere with those. Thanks for all your help and I'll get back here as soon as I find what's wrong.

Best Regards,
Arkadiusz

[prymcik]

I tried digging into the gauges folder but haven't found anything that might have given me any answers to my problem, I have tested the DC-9-10 with the right engines and panel to it :
N8913E JT8D-7 with the corresponding panel, and I have the same issue as in the 727 the whole upper part of the main panel is inoperative. I think that a FS9 re-install might fix it but it'll take hours to make it look the way it does now hehe. Thanks for all your help.

Best Regards
Arkadiusz

[Dan K. Hansen]

You haven't been playing with your screen resolution lately?

[walterleo]

Hi:

Early B 727 panels by R. Probst had in the panel file the gauges (not in the gauges file), Since 2009 B-727-200 adv by R. Probst the gauges are in the gauges file (as with the HJG B727 panel). Maybe FS9 gets distracted, if you have still installed the old panel. But the check of the screen resolution is also a good idea, before throwing away the full FS9 installation.

Walter

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

You haven't been playing with your screen resolution lately?

That's actually a very good point .... and may be more relevent than it sounds.

Maybe FS9 gets distracted, if you have still installed the old panel.

That's possible .... but the thing is .... he sais it worked fine before, so, if screen resolution isn't a contributing factor (as Dan suggested) ..... and it could be .... then his issue must be the result of some sort of corruption or bad interaction with something else he's installed since these past last worked fine for him.

It's disappointing for him .... I can imagine .... but .... it sure baffles the hell out of me .... because I've never heard of such a problem/issue previously .... and on any OS and FS9.

Mark C
AKL/NZ