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Post by grayrider on Nov 24, 2011 0:20:49 GMT
ON both the Passenger 727-200's and 727-100's.What doors are able to be opened on the models?
I can open the crew entry door on either planes.I thought the air stairs at the back of the planes,where the passengers get on,could be opened?.If it can be opened,what are the key commands to lower the air stairs etc?.
Are there any other doors or hatches that can be opened.I don't have any of the freight hauling 727 versions installed.
THX
GrayRider
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2011 0:43:14 GMT
"IF" you're using the HJG/PROBST/CARTY B727 panels .... then among the bank of sub panel view selection icons appearing at the bottom of the main panel .... there should be an icon resembling a staircase. Mouse clicking on that particular icon will/should open the rear fuselage/ventral PAX exit, but, it mayu only work on the ground with the brakes "ON" and strobe lighting "OFF" .... I'm not sure .... it's been a while now. This icon most certainly works in FS2004 (for which these models are intended), but, I can't confirm this in the case of FSX.
"SOME" .... but not all of .... the B727 FREIGHTER models are equipped with animated maindeck forward fuselage cargo doors, but, some aren't.
The VL B727 project is actually an unfinished one which we inherited and host "by consent" only .... but which we're unable to further advance .... at this time.
I can tell you that "NONE" of the B727-100C/QC/F base packs feature models with animated maindeck cargo doors .... like these should all have .... but don't .... for precisely the above reasons.
So far as I can recall (again it's been a while) only the B727-200F ADVC model features an animated maindeck cargo door .... but .... I can't, for the life of me, recall which keyboard commands are used to operate it and whether or not these need to be manually assigned within FS first in order to enable this.
"NONE" of the standard B727-200F (early production) or B727-200F ADVC RE SUPER 27 freighter versions feature animated maindeck forward fuselage cargo doors .... but .... I think the keyboard commands SHIFT E open the forward fuselage PAX/CREW exit/s.
I don't know it the starboard lower fuselage freigt hatches open .... or if they do .... what keyboard commands apply .... and whether or not these might work in FSX either.
Not a lot of confirmation "HERE" .... I know .... but hopefully .... some of this information might help you regardless.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by grayrider on Nov 24, 2011 5:33:23 GMT
I am using one of your 727-200 panels.When you got my paint issue fixed.I went back into the same acft.,and in panel view.I looked around for the icon resembling a staircase you are referring to,across the bottom of the panel,and everywhere else on the panel.I know the icon you are referring to,because I've seen it on other types of planes not HJG planes.
I've seen it on an Eastern 727-200 I had from another source.I was using a key command,but not sure what it was.I did set the breaks/turned off the lights,and tryed some key commands,but it didn't work,Hmmm!.
Another hair puller for the moment.
GrayRider
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2011 6:51:03 GMT
It's been a little while since I've flown any of the B727's .... SO .... I had to consult my own forum based B727 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES regarding the ventral airstairs .... and here's the deal .... At the bottom left of each HJG/PROBST/CARTY B727 panel (in the vicinity of the "NO LiQUIDS PLEASE" placard) there's a bank of some 10 sub panel view selection icons. The "STAIRCASE" icon, used to open/close the ventral PAX exit, is the first of these icons .... from the left .... but .... it apparently works only on the basis of the above information extracted from my panel manual. This animation might not work in FSX though  Unfortunately .... I can't confirm this since I'm not an FSX user. For complete information regarding our B727 simulation you may find my following posting "quite helpful"  .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hjgaircraftlistings&action=display&thread=2382Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by grayrider on Nov 25, 2011 3:02:33 GMT
Another gremlin knocked out.The wing fold is the key command.Mine used to be Shift W.I had changed that command,quite some time ago,and forgot about it.
So I'm good to go on this tid bit,the 727 back stairs,when the pax get on.They are lighted stairs.Since the stairs are lit up.I'm curious why the the passenger interior area isn't lit up,and all the passenger windows are Illuminated at night?.That is with any airplane.When all lights are turned one,the interior is always Illuminated.I would think.The interior lights have nothing to do with the exterior logo lights etc.
GrayRider
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 25, 2011 4:19:30 GMT
Looks like we're on a bit of a "ROLLER" this week ;D I'd say that's just a result of the limits of progress to which those models ever went  Remember  .... the VL B727 models were an unfinished project (as good as they may be) when we inherited them. Source code publicly available or not .... I very much doubt that we/HJG will take the challenge to further advance things in the future, so, I imagine these models will likely remain the way they are .... in respect of what they've got .... both interms of effects and animations (etc) .... for the forseable future. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Nov 25, 2011 15:57:24 GMT
If the aircraft isn't accompanied with a night light map texture, you won't have a lid up cabine ... As far as I know it has with the texturing to do, and not the source code of the model....
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 25, 2011 19:00:50 GMT
In regard to SC .... I was really only meaning in regard to further expanding existing model features and details "IF" an internal ventral exit lighting texture is available and not included within a texture file .... then that, as Dan suggests, would directly result in there being no aiirstairs/ventral exit lighhting visible. Personally .... if such an Lighing Map does exist .... then I most certainly didn't know about it. If one was able to locate/identify this particular LM from another B727 texture .... and then "copy" (only) it into any B727 texture that apparently doesn't exibit this feature .... then that should "positively resolve" (in theory) the apparently non-existent airstairs/ventral exit lighting in regard to those subjects which may still need it. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by garryrussell on Nov 25, 2011 22:16:38 GMT
Painted on widows have the cabin lights in the textures
If you are meaning the actual inside of the model, that is a part of the light cfg by adding VC lights in the correct positions.
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Nov 26, 2011 20:59:54 GMT
I've never painted a widow .. OR a window for that matter |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 26, 2011 21:47:51 GMT
HMMM .... I'm not too sure .... BUT .... I figured he maybe meant just that area of steps and open door space which is then exposed whenever that ventral exit is opened/extended rather than actual complete inside cabin/fuselage I suspect he might have thought the visible illuminated cabin window lights effect must be the result of illumination comming from behind them/within the actualcabin .... which he queried perhaps because he couldn't understand why the insides of the ventral exit weren't then illuminated either. Gary is "quite right" and "correct" too .... to clarify the illuminated window texturing is as he has Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by garryrussell on Nov 27, 2011 0:15:50 GMT
Hi Mark
To add interior light in just the local area of an open door is a VC light...to light the whole cabin you need several along the length, but if it is just in the door area one of two will do.
I don't find them very bright TBH
You have to use that method if you have cut out windows (or widows for that matter)
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.... the VL B727 models were an unfinished project (as good as they may be) when we inherited them. 
