DC-9 Crash to Desktop (CTD)

[doulgaslover]

Hi Guys,

Congratulations on your superb DC-9! However, I have recently re-installed Windows, and today went to re-install some of the DC-9's I had before hand.

After following the instructions to the word, I have found that FS9 crashes to desktop when I select "Load Flight." After much frustration, I found that the panel itself is causing the trouble. I used the JT8D-9 base-pack for the DC-9-30, along with the Early Sounds and DC-9-30 JT8D-9 Panel. Not sure why this happens. I also tried with a DC-9-50 and the same occurs.

Many thanks for the help

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

The only condition I've ever observed that might cause this to happen is if a couple of the panel gauges/modules files are installed in the wrong place/destination folder.

There are no known issues relating to any of the DC9 panels or their supporting gauges/core files components that might cause such a condition when selecting/loading any of the DC9's, with out panels, into FS9.

I want you to undertake the DC9 panel installation procedure "once again" .... but .... strictly in accordance with the following advice and which is also consistent with the recommended installation instructions which accompany all panel related files for the DC9´s ....

1. All DC9 panels should be installed inside your
"FS9 FSCONV" folder .... and the PANEL.CFG file within the default PANEL folder inside your DC9 Aircraft Base Pack then "aliased back to the FSCONV folder and the appropriate DC9 panel".

2. Install all DC9 PANEL GAUGES inside your FS9 "GAUGES" folder.

3. Install all DC9 PANEL SOUNDS inside your FS9 "SOUND" folder .... not the default SOUND folder which accompanies you DC9 Aircraft Base Pack/s

NOW HERE´s THE IMPORTANT PART .... WHERE SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE GONE WRONG IN THE PAST ....

4. There are 2 DLL files supplied for use with these DC9 panels which are named as follows ....

- FSSound.dll

- GaugeSound.dll

PLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY AS FOLLOWS ....

Install the FSSOUND.DLL file (only) inside the FS9 "MODULES" folder .... but .... install the GAUGESOUND.DLL file (only) inside the "FLIGHT SIMULATOR 9" folder.

AND WE´RE NOT DONE YET EITHER ....

5. Locate your FS9.CFG file and then add and save the following edit to the bottom of this CFG file .... if you haven´'t already done it ....

[OLDMODULES]
FSSound.dll=1

I encourage folk to "copy & paste" this edit "as-is" to their FS9.CFG files in order to avoid the possibility of typos.

I wouldn't mind supposing that the DLL bit of this advice is possiibly where you might have gone wrong .... and what's maybe causing your problem.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Dan K. Hansen]

Missing:
[OLDMODULES]
FSSound.dll=1

Is crucial, and bound to cause CTD.

[doulgaslover]

Nov 27, 2011 18:19:04 GMT aerofoto - HJG Admin said:

The only condition I've ever observed that might cause this to happen is if a couple of the panel gauges/modules files are installed in the wrong place/destination folder.

There are no known issues relating to any of the DC9 panels or their supporting gauges/core files components that might cause such a condition when selecting/loading any of the DC9's, with out panels, into FS9.

I want you to undertake the DC9 panel installation procedure "once again" .... but .... strictly in accordance with the following advice and which is also consistent with the recommended installation instructions which accompany all panel related files for the DC9´s ....

1. All DC9 panels should be installed inside your
"FS9 FSCONV" folder .... and the PANEL.CFG file within the default PANEL folder inside your DC9 Aircraft Base Pack then "aliased back to the FSCONV folder and the appropriate DC9 panel".

2. Install all DC9 PANEL GAUGES inside your FS9 "GAUGES" folder.

3. Install all DC9 PANEL SOUNDS inside your FS9 "SOUND" folder .... not the default SOUND folder which accompanies you DC9 Aircraft Base Pack/s

NOW HERE´s THE IMPORTANT PART .... WHERE SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE GONE WRONG IN THE PAST ....

4. There are 2 DLL files supplied for use with these DC9 panels which are named as follows ....

- FSSound.dll

- GaugeSound.dll

PLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY AS FOLLOWS ....

Install the FSSOUND.DLL file (only) inside the FS9 "MODULES" folder .... but .... install the GAUGESOUND.DLL file (only) inside the "FLIGHT SIMULATOR 9" folder.

AND WE´RE NOT DONE YET EITHER ....

5. Locate your FS9.CFG file and then add and save the following edit to the bottom of this CFG file .... if you haven´'t already done it ....

[OLDMODULES]
FSSound.dll=1

I encourage folk to "copy & paste" this edit "as-is" to their FS9.CFG files in order to avoid the possibility of typos.

I wouldn't mind supposing that the DLL bit of this advice is possiibly where you might have gone wrong .... and what's maybe causing your problem.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

Thanks for the help Mark! All is working properly now... I "skipped" the part about the modules, and put both into the modules folder, which caused the problem. Placing "GaugeSound.dll" to the main FS9 folder has fixed the problem. I will also have to add the "OldModules" bit to the FS9.cfg, which should prevent any further problems from arising

The only complaint I have about the DC-9 is the sounds don't have that JT8D whirr sound, as well as information concerning when to extend/retract flaps... I will hunt around the forums here, and maybe put together a little guide for the Kneeboard within FS, so I can refer to it during flights

Many thanks for your help, enjoy your day,

DouglasLover

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Actually .... missing that OLD MODULES edit will only result in a harmless "POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE SOFTWARE" advisory being generated by FS9 as it loads .... but .... which is both easily and completely resolved by simply selecting the "YES/LOAD ANYWAY" in response to this advisory. Adding the recommended OLD MODULES edit to the FS9.CFG simply overides this advisory automatically so it never appears again

Missing installing the SOUND.DLL completely, or installing it in the wrong place, will (as Dan sais) result in a CTD though

ANYYhOW ....

Glad you got it sorted "DOUGLASLOVER".

I figured it was a MODULES installation miisunderstanig that was causative of you problem .... because 1 or 2 folk have made the same error in the past .... with the same end result.

The only complaint I have about the DC-9 is the sounds don't have that JT8D whirr sound

About our JT8D soundpacks for the DC9's ....

Firstly .... we offer 2 versions of the same soundpack .... suffixed "EARLY" and "LATE.

The "EARLY" version should be used with all JT8D-1 through D-9 engine aircraft base pack and panels only .... and features a more "solid engine roar" during the extreme high power/thrust regime.

The "LATE" version should be used with all JT8D-11 through D-17
aircraft base pack and panels only .... and features less solid engine roar but a very distinct "turbine buzz/whine" during the extreme high power/thrust regime.

Both soundpacks are "pretty accurate" .... at least as accurate as we/AEROMUSICA can get, for the moment, bearing in mind the availability of reference resource/material and certain FS limitations.

information concerning when to extend/retract flaps... I will hunt around the forums here

You won't have to hunt far

Turn you attention to my thread entitled "DC9 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES" .... which appears at the top of this particular forum page.

That posting is our online/forum manual for the DC9's .... and it's "quite extensive" covering viryally everything one needs to know about these panels and aircraft inm order to be able to enjoy them to the maximum.

One of the last postings on that particular forum thread is my "basic flyiing guide" information for each of the DC9 TYPE aircraft .... and I believe I've already included flap speed reference data somewhere within that posting.

You should find this information more than just a little bit useful.

Mark C
AKL/NZ