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Post by garryrussell on May 15, 2012 10:26:13 GMT
Hi Mark
Kader were a Hong Kong company that re released the Lincoln Intrernational kits. One shop (VHF Supplise) were selling them in the UK that I know of in the early 1970's but I don't ever recal them being on general sale here
All box scales there was Viscount, Britannia, Constellation and 707 that I had.
I seem to remember the 707 having the early wing like on the 707/12 & C-135
For all I know it might be a 120...It was so bad I threw it away without ever making it
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 15, 2012 22:28:42 GMT
Should have given it to me Garry You might have, then, and unwittingly, thrown away a bit of gold there. Even a poor kit "can" accrue considerable value .... over time .... and as a collectable. I think one of the nicest KADER kits I have is that of the F27 they produced. The amount of detail .... in terms of parts, detail, and other features incorporated into that particular kit was "quite considerable/admirable" for it small size/scale. We're starting to see the 1:72 AIRFIX F27 kit re-released here .... with both radar and original non-radar equipped nose versions/ pieces .... which I don't recall the original early release version of this same kit (BRAATHENS SAFE LN-SUN) ever featuring previously, so, I assume AIRFIX/HORNBY must have done a little work on it. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on May 23, 2012 16:28:42 GMT
Hi Mark...this was in 1972/3...they couldn't give them away, they were just not selling. The F-27 was ex Lincoln too but I never had one. I used to have two mint Lincoln Viscounts until my ex destroyed them. One had a pic of G-ALWE on the box and it said it The Viscount was in service with BEA. Like the Kader it had poor quality decals printed as one, not individual items so had to be carefully cut out. But how about this, the other had a crude line drawing on the box top, said the Viscount will soon enter airline service with BEA and the "decals" were the same but printed on thin clear plastic to be cut out and glued to the model The Airfix re release of the F-27 has a new sprue with two noses and square props which is an addition and the stewardess deleted although some claim she's there, she is on the instructions. The model still has nine wrong shaped undersized portholes instead of ten although the model was correct with nine in the early days as the first 100 were missing a window, soon added. The model was originally issued as EI-AKA, the first in airline service. The Revel DC 10 I was just reading was made in both -10 and -30 but sometimes were mixed up and the wrong version put in the box. The only one I ever had was a -10 without the centre gear in Lakerlivery which was correct. The did release the -30 in Lufthansa and someof those had a -10 in the box rather than the correct -30
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 23, 2012 21:17:16 GMT
I tell ya what .... "SOMETIMES" .... the box art alone, rather than the parts inside, make any kit "all the more collectable" .... especially in cases where the box might bear a legend such as that you've cited to be the case in respect of very ealy issues iof that the BEA VISCOUNT.
I presume that the original AIRFIX F27 was modelled on the prototype aircraft (photo reference value only in respect of the 9, rather than 10, cabin windows) .... but then .... the long radar equipped nose given to the kit, at that time, "probably" wouldn't have been correct for the AER LINGUS livery .... or the prototype F27 for certain .... because of their short non-radar equipped noses .... as I recall. Whether or not the AER LINGUS aircraft was modified with radar later on .... and which would, then, make the kit more-or-less correct, save for the cabin window configuration .... I know not. Certainly .... all of the AIRFIX F27 kits that we got "HERE" came with BRAATHENS SAFE AIR TRANSPORT livery (LN-SUN) .... until the current/more recent release which features TAA, THY, and ALM liveries and parts for both noses. What tended to happen up in the UK though is these same earlier AIRFIX kit realeases appeared in "a number of different liveries" just to satisfy local markets .... and which we never ever got/saw here.
Didn't know about the REVELL DC10-30 .... but .... was well aware of the DC10-10 discrepency associated with supposed DC10-30 kit marketing. The give-away, of course, is the early GE Splitter Plates on the tail pipe of each engine .... rather than the standard exhaust cone with its predeominent silencer .... and I can't remember whether or not the REVELL release eith has, or lacks, a CLG unit. NITTO/DOYUSHA made the same "BOO-BOO" too with their otherwise quite nice 1:100 scale DC10 .... marketed as a JAL DC10-40 unfortunately, but in realirty, a DC10-10 kit, again with the early GE Splitter Plates. The AIRFIX 1:144 DC10-30 was/is "RUBBISH" (a very poior molding indeed in comparison with their otherwise nice A300B and L1011 kits) .... so far as I'm concerned .... but .... the HELLER 1:125 DC10-30 is .... IMHO .... the very best "decent sized" DC10-30 I've seen so far .... excluding for a moment the nice HASEGAWA 1:200 scale DC10 kits representing both the -30 and the -40 with correct tail engine intake shape parts and CLG unit.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 23, 2012 21:31:14 GMT
Now I understand why she became your "EX" .... deleted like the AIRFIX F27 kit stewardess ;D Despite being as patient as I tend to be (unless wound up counter-clockwise by "IDIOTS") .... I guess I'd be "slightly irritated" by som,ething like that too ;D Fortunately .... my wonderful Colombian wife is "very supportive" of most of what I like doing, but I admit, I am, apparently, having a lot difficulty trying to convince her that the new 1:300 REVELL kits of both BISMARCK and TIRPITZ (John KEANE and myself went into raptures over hese), which I'm planning to acquire and add to my already huge ship collection, are, indeed, "QUALITY SHOW CASE DISPLAY MODELS" .... and not bathtub toys for kiddies. Maybe she just doesn't like ships I'm buggered if I know Mark C AKL/NZ
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