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Post by norwegianno on Jun 15, 2012 12:10:22 GMT
Hey,
I asks a question do i could upload some planes with repaints and effects.
I have sitted and putted some repaints downloaded from simviation.com/hjg and effects and the DC-8-63 plane.
Could i upload them to another site?
(In one packadge!)
I will write a readme file like this:
'It isnt me that made this plane i only upload it with effects,panels other things like repaints.
SO...
(C)COPYRIGHT HJG Historic Jet Linersgroup!
And other files of course.
If i get an ''an contract that im allowed to upload it had been cool and fine''!
Bye regards.
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Post by thegetter on Jun 15, 2012 12:21:55 GMT
HJG's END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT www.simviation.com/hjg/eula.htmCan I upload your aircraft to my website? We do not allow any HJG files to be uploaded to websites other than our own. This applies to aircraft painted by HJG members and posted on our website. This does not apply to you own HJG approved repaints. You are free to upload any previews or pictures of HJG repaints that you wish. You cannot link directly to any of the aircraft files on our website. If you have questions about this policy, please post a message in our discussion forum. TheGetter!  |
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Post by norwegianno on Jun 15, 2012 12:36:37 GMT
Ok  |
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Jun 15, 2012 14:00:18 GMT
Thanks for posting TheGetter, your right we DO NOT ALLOW unauthorised uploads, sadly it does happen but we ask that they be removed if we see them.
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Post by luchoals on Jul 29, 2012 21:13:49 GMT
I'm sorry to ask but why's that not possible? I mean, if somebody gives the complete credit of the aircraft and repaints to the HJG team, why it is still prohibited?
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Post by +mrfaosfx on Jul 29, 2012 21:30:31 GMT
Can I upload your aircraft to my website?
We do not allow any HJG files to be uploaded to websites other than our own. This applies to aircraft painted by HJG members and posted on our website. This does not apply to you own HJG approved repaints. You are free to upload any previews or pictures of HJG repaints that you wish. You cannot link directly to any of the aircraft files on our website. If you have questions about this policy, please post a message in our discussion forum.
I'll pitch in though this is really not my area of expertise. When you upload an add-on of yours to your site, over time, your add-on might become "dated" because we at HJG update files every few months. That means that if we find an error and correct it, your uploaded add-on may not "sport" that new fix and other people who download your version may have problems which, in turn will lead them here...now, we can't help them if the aircraft package came from another site, because we really don't know what was changed or if its even up to date.
I believe, it is just to avoid problems in the long run and keeps everything working smoothly.
I'm sure the other staff members have a say on this, again, this is not my area of expertise and I'm just a modeler and painter but when it comes to policies, I know one thing for sure, obey the policy, no questions asked and that can avoid a big head ache and frowning faces down the road.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 30, 2012 1:15:31 GMT
For reasons "THE GETTER" (an HJG community friend) and "MR FAOSFX" (an HJG staff member) have both explained The last thing we (any FS group like HJG) need is copies of the files we provide being uploaded elsewhere, then dating, to the point of becoming hopelessly outdated over time and in comparison to recent/"the latest" file versions of everything we provide on this/our own website .... and/or .... copies of the files we provide, potentially, being manipulated/recompiled in a manner that's not endorsed by HJG (for reason of compatibility), with folk then being misled into downloading such files, experiencing problems with them, and then complaining to us, with ourselves not then being able to resolve their issue simply because we don't know what's been done to such files in the first place .... and which becomes both "frustrating and time consuming" for both parties. These situations "HAVE", unfortunately, occurred in the past   HJG does monitor other FS websites and whom also co-operate with us too .... and .... where possible .... we always have such file breaches "REMOVED" as soon as we spot them or they are otherwise brought to our attention by these other websites. HJG "will not" be reviewing its policy in the foreseeable future. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Alejandro on Jul 30, 2012 1:48:44 GMT
I'm sorry to ask but why's that not possible? I mean, if somebody gives the complete credit of the aircraft and repaints to the HJG team, why it is still prohibited? It sounds good, but it's seldom accomplished in real life. Suppouse someone likes an AA Md-82 livery, but wants to put it on a MD-90 who never had it in the real life and this person doesn't likes the detailed HJG panel and prefires some third part generic one... and uses the flight model of our DC-9-51 because it was the one he has on hand... Do you really feel that this mix accomplishes the HJG desires and quality standarts? I wouldn't want credit for this desaster |
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Post by luchoals on Jul 30, 2012 3:25:57 GMT
I'm sorry to waste your time, but I still have the doubt, because in the case that the person who makes the packages:
-Knows a lot about editing and correcting issues in all the files because of hours of experience,
-Can provide support to them and
-Usually makes upgraded versions of his packages (in case there are issues)
-Just includes official files from the HJG site (for protecting the quality)
Why can't that person upload the files?
Luis
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Post by +mrfaosfx on Jul 30, 2012 4:10:55 GMT
I'm sorry to waste your time, but I still have the doubt, because in the case that the person who makes the packages: -Knows a lot about editing and correcting issues in all the files because of hours of experience, -Can provide support to them and -Usually makes upgraded versions of his packages (in case there are issues) -Just includes official files from the HJG site (for protecting the quality) Why can't that person upload the files? Luis The policy states clear the reason why. Mark has already pointed that out and I believe this thread is heading into heated territory. |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 30, 2012 8:08:14 GMT
LUCHOALS .... 4 people have explained HJG policy on this thread .... and in particular why this group "does not" allow uploading of any of "it's own" files elsewhere. The explained policy is both standing as well as "NON-NEGOTIABLE". "IF" the responses provided are inconvenient then that's, perhaps, "unfortunate" .... because all I see being expressed, by you, is not so much a question, but rather, a form of veiled discontent with the fact that HJG's policy obviously isn't consistent with what you believe should freely be able to be done with "its files" .... YET .... you're not the "LEGAL AUTHOR" or "COPYRIGHT" holder of any HJG files any more than you are a "CUSTODIAN" of these either .... and .... this group is really under no obligation to have to justify or even defend its policy. It's our decision ! Need I/anyone say more ;D Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Alejandro on Jul 30, 2012 13:36:19 GMT
I was ready to launch a nuclear warhead against luchoals... but then I read again and this tread was started by norwegianno.
So, norwegianno:
If you like so much our work (thanks, thanks, thanks) maybe you can think about help us with somethink, maybe some development in the model area, or special effects or somethink like that. I'm sure Tony or Mark will be glad of your help. You will be part of the team and publish our work only here.
luchoals:
Assembling our package takes five minutes after download. A paint takes one to five weeks. An airplane model takes two years or more. Fine tuning the fligh model takes months. Mantainig this page takes days too.
So... how much aknoweledge want you for your five minutes and how much aknoweledge would you put for us? Would you put your name first and ours last like in small letters or how else?
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Post by luchoals on Jul 30, 2012 18:39:01 GMT
Ok thank you very muck for explaining the reasons for this prohibition, I guess I'll make the packages for myself.
Alejandro:
I got your point of the time and effort needed for creating this files.
Thank you very much for creating this High-Quality Add-Ons, sorry for wasting your time on this.
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Post by +mrfaosfx on Jul 30, 2012 21:09:56 GMT
You have not wasted anybody's time, any kind of help we can offer is what counts if you are satisfied.  |
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