HJG doesn't work on vista??

[hayhaa]

Hello- I had a problem a few days ago that HJG planes wouldn't run on FSX. Yesterday, I tried downloading the the plane that didn't work (DC-8-71) on my Windows 7 laptop and worked. The same airplane wouldn't run on my Windows Vista Desktop. Is there anything to fix that?

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

HANG ON A MOMENT ....

It's already been stated, by at least 2 users, within that last thread of yours on this particular forum page ....

tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=questionsonfsxandhjg&action=display&thread=6260

.... that HJG simulations (the DC8's in this particular case) do work fine on a WINDOWS VISTA OS.

In fact the only negative experience both of these users reported is an apparent tendency for their simulations to "lag" .... for whatever reason .... and which could, possibly, be common to their own systems rather than WINDOWS VISTA generally.

I certainly don't know of (at least I don't recall) any particular issue preventing the use of HJG simulations with WINDOWS VISTA.

I do recall it being mentioned .... several years ago .... that there were, "possibly", issues in regard to where unzipped file components might end up on a WINDOWS VISTA OS if "targeted" towards destination folders upon being extracted and installed directly from their ZIP files during this particular method of installation.

I also recall it then being stated .... and as a result of this particular knowledge .... that the best, "recommended", installation procedure for HJG files on WINDOWS VISTA systems (any bloody OS for that matter) was to, first and foremost, unzip the contents of each ZIP file into a temporary folder, outside of FS, and to then, "manually", install/drag and drop each of the necessary file components into their various/respective FS destination folders. In this particular manner file components can only end up wherever one places them .... "hopefully" inside the right destination folders and in accordance with the installation instructions which accompanying all HJG files, Failing to do this correctly, "WILL"/MIGHT" result in "PROBLEMS".

You obviously have 2 different systems .... one using a WINDOWS VISTA .... and the other using a WINDOWS 7.

You say, you've got everything running fine on WINDOWS 7, but, not so in the case of WINDOWS VISTA.

The fact that 2 individuals (at least) have stated, here, that they've, successfully installed, and are running, HJG simulations, on their own WINDOWS VISTA based systems "suggests" that whatever issue, you say, you're experiencing, is, "possibly/likely", common to your own system .... and for which any number of reasons outside the realms of HJG to be able resolve, let alone advise regarding, might apply .... OR .... in the case of your WINDOWS VISTA installation (only), you may, "possibly", have a vital file/component installed within a wrong destination folder (I can only summize, but, I can't actually see what you've done .... remember) and which "could" then lead to problems such as a CTD or other form of "FATAL ACCEPTION" whenever you go to run the simulation.

ONE AGAIN .... there's no issues (that I'm aware of at least) preventing HJG simulations from being run in FSX and on a WINDOWS VISTA OS.

in fact the only FSX related issues that apply to all HJG related simulations are as follows ....

- In FSX one will not be able to see any of the high quality interior panel/flight deck views which HJG panels are mostly comprised of .... and which applies to FSX regardless of whatever WINDOWS OS is being employed.

- AEROMUSICA soundpacks for HJG simulations don't run as well in FSX as they do within their intended FS2004 FS base .... due to different audio engineering associated with FSX and once again regardles of OS.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[hayhaa]

I Get the plane, Download a texture, Move the plane to Sim objects/Airplanes/, go in to the DC-8 folder, open the texture file, drag the texture folder in the folder, copy and paste the code thingy in the Aircraft.CFG, put the next number in the fltsim sequence......Is some thing wrong that I'm doing? (I did the steps on w7)

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I don't doubt, you believe, you've done everything correctly .... BUT ONCE AGAIN .... save for something else you've, possibly, got installed or otherwise associated with your WINDOWS VISTA OS, or that you've edited and aren't telling ..... then you've, likely, still, "NOT" done something right .... it seems.

You need to check all of the following possibilities.


1. In the case of your DC8 aircraft base pack installation

- Where did you install your aircraft Basic Pack ? And specifically .... what is the "actual folder name" of the particular DC8 aircraft base pack you believe to be correctly installed ? And .... in the case of your reported "NO SHOWS" .... have you, inadvertently, still got the valid aircraft base pack folder contained inside the original file container from its ZIP file ?

- Have you, correctly, edited the FLTSIM.XX line in the ADD TO AIRCRAFT/AIRCRAFT.CFG data associated with the texture/s that you are trying to install ?

[fltsim.0]

[fltsim.1]

[fltsim.2] .... etc in the case of a CFG texture chain !!!!

AND .... in the case of your texture installation ..... does the texture folder name for the particular DC8 texture file you're trying to install agree, precisely, with the data/name appearing within the TEXTURE= data line of your ADD TO AIRCRAFT/AIRCRAFT.CFG ?

- Did you edit the PANEL.CFG file contained inside the default PANEL folder to read B737-800 .... for FSX compatibility ? AND .... Did you edit the SOUND.CFG contained inside the default SOUND folder to read B737-800 .... for FSX compatibility ?


2. In the case of your DC8 panel .... assuming you're installing the HJG DC8 panel offerings .... which "ARE" compatible with FSX on all WINDOWS OS ....

- Where did you install your panel folder ? And specifically .... what is the "actual folder name" for the DC8 panel you believe to be correctly installed ? And .... in the case of your reported "NO SHOWS" .... have you, inadvertently, still got the valid panel folder contained inside the original container from its ZIP file ?

- Where did you install each of the panel gauge components ?

- Where did you install each of the panel sounds components ?


3. In the case of your DC8 sounds .... assuming you're installing the HJG hosted AEROMUSICA DC8 sound pack offerings ....

- Where did you install your sound pack folder ? And specifically .... what is the "actual folder name" for the particular DC8 sound pack you believe to be correctly installed ? And .... in the case of your reported "NO SHOWS" .... have you, inadvertently, still got the valid sound pack folder contained inside the original container from its ZIP file ?


4. In the case of FSX installations specifically ....

- Are you .... absolutely certain .... that you've followed "TO THE LETTER" either one of Dan's 3 different, but recommended, installation options/procedures which are applicable to FSX .... each of which "DO WORK" on any oS, but, only if "PERFORMED CORRECTLY".


If any one of the above procedures are "BOTCHED UP" .... then a problem "IS" going to occur that "WILL" result in either an FS "NO SHOW", a CTD or other "FATAL ACCEPT ION". or other performance related issues within FS.

I can't provide more, or better, advice/direction than I've tried to provide to date .... or than that which has, to date, already, been compiled per Dan's own FSX specific installation tutorials .... and .... I can't perform the installation procedure for you.

I need to say .... 90 % of problems which reported here are usually on account of a particular phase of the recommended installation procedures not having been performed correctly .... by the end user.

It's extremely rare for HJG simulations to not work (period) on any particular OS.

I regret to conclude .... there's, really, not much else I can add


Mark C
AKL/NZ

[hayhaa]

I did the same steps on w7

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

"HAYHAA" ....

I don't think you're really listening .... and if you're listening then I suspect you're probably not understanding .... and even in the event you're both listening and understanding then I still don't think you're following up thoroughly enough in regard to "some" what's been asked and suggested to you over these past few days.

Given the "vagueness" of some of your responses (it's impossible try to identify or communicate, with pin-point precision, the potential cause of any particular problem in just a single sentence alone) .... I don't see there's much more that I (or anyone else for that matter) can do to try'n assist.

As most of this/HJG community might agree .... it's an extremely rare event I ever give up trying to provide assistance to those whom, I feel, are most in need of it .... BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE .... I feel I've no other alternative because I'm not prepared to, potentially, "play the game".

For me .... it's "TIME" .... rather than my patience that's lacking.

"IF" you're unable to install, and run, and enjoy, HJG simulations given the direction so far provided as well as the wealth of other information permanently available "HERE" then I do, sincerely, regret that (it's a great pity in fact) .... because you must be "one in, literally, a thousand users" whom can't

SORRY

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Herman]

AS I mentioned previously, I am using the Vista system and I do not have any problems with any of the HJG aircraft.

I do however, uncheck the "Administrator" function in order to be able to edit the aircraft cfg. file when adding additional aircraft and their textures etc.

Herman

[hayhaa]

Well, at least I can run HJG on my laptop...