Stellan Hilmerbys' DC9 aircraft and panel

[mog]

OK second attempt I managed to erase the first!

I downloaded the above from Stellans' website, I followed the install instructions in all but the last, I couldn't alter the FS9cfg. file because I don't seem to have one , I have done the search including hidden files and folders and it's not there, I don't think it's that important all it means is one gets a warning at FS2004 start up of a possible conflict and if one clicks yes to load all progresses normally. Both the DC9-21 and DC9-41 folders are there in the aircraft folder of FS9 with their attendant panel sound etc. folders within them, the other items are located where they are supposed to be in the modules folder and sound folder etc. etc. I have got a licenced version of FSUIPC3 installed, but, when I search the aircraft types list they are not to be seen. I have tried grafting the panel folder from Stellans' DC9-41 onto the HJG DC9 aircraft and it works, not totally since there seems to be an issue with the flap lever which although the flap indicator indicates all selections the flap lever seems to only be 0 flap or full flap, the other oddity is the VHF NAV 1 and 2, the frequency can't be changed, I think, but am not totally sure that all other aspects of the panel work.

Does anybody have an idea where I have gone wrong? I'm sure it is something I have or haven't done since I have searched all the threads on this board and nobody seems to have had the same problem, the other day I tried reinstalling the whole thing on top of the original, all to no avail, any clues?

mog  

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

UMMM .... there´s no need for you to download these simulations directly from any other website .... and when I say that I don´t mean to sound like I´m trying to deal Stellan out of any IT traffic/patronage either .... because that´s most certainly/absolutely "NOT" the case.

It´s just that the DC9 simulations offered by HJG .... "AND THE ONLY ONES HJG CAN SUPPORT" .... are this groups own or are corrected and more advanced versions of the same original files provided by Stellan HILMERBY (or anyone else for that matter) and are "QUITE DIFFERENT".

Other versions of the HILMERBY DC9 files provided on other websites "CANNOT" be supported by HJG.

May I suggest that you "delete" what you´ve downloaded and installed so far .... AND THEN .... restart this entire excercise again by selecting, downloading, and then installing the DC9 files offered by "THIS"/HJG website.

Allow me to explain further ....


1. HJG´s 3D DC9 models were produced by Nicholas BOTAMER (of JET CITY fame) and are "the most recent" 3D modelling reproductions of these aircraft currently available for FS .... "so far as I´m aware". Those offered by even JET CITY (gone now though .... I believe), and SGA/Eric CANTU .... whilst they´re all still good .... "VERY GOOD" in fact .... are also "much older" than anything currently offered here .... by HJG.

2. The DC9 panel series offered by HJG .... although they´re based on the original versions of these panels produced by Stellan HILMERBY .... are also "far more recent and superior" too. HJG´s George CARTY (with the "consent" of Mr HILMERBY himself) managed to iron out "ALL" of the minor bugs that existed in these original panel offerings .... AND .... he also then further improved many other functions of these same panels too .... along with adding some new features that weren´t previously represented in any of these DC9 panels either .... as well as then making each of the "HJG offered versions of these panels" both aircraft/engine type specific in conjunction with each of the HJG offered DC9 aircraft/engine type base packs too.


What´s currently offered by HJG in terms of these simulations certainly promote a much better DC9 experience than may currntly be realised using anything else anything else offered elsewhere .... per either freeware or payware productions.

Once again .... I "SUGGEST" .... do yoursef a very big favour and replace all of what you´ve so far with what´s currently offered by HJG.

You´ll have to anyway .... otherwise HJG can´t provide any support for you at all for what you currently have.

Upon replacing your original files with those offered by HJG .... "PLEASE" .... pay careful attention to the installation instructions included within each downloadable component of these DC9 simulations.

Consider referring to my "DC9 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES" also .... in order to ensure the correct aircraft base pack/engine type and aircraft panel/engine type configurations (see "SECTION 1" of these notes) .... as follows ....
tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/3435/hjg-panel-installation-handling-notes

In order to benefit/aid a few folk whom have misread/misunderstood the installation instructions for these files in the past (particularly in regard to installing the panel components) .... I´ve "further simplifid" the installation procdures .... as follows .... just look for my own replies (by "AEROFOTO") within the following linked thread ....
tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/6194/dc-9-10-panel-problem

See how you get along .... and get back to me if you need any further assistance .... and which I suspect you´ll probably need to do anyway, but, do also bear-in-mind that I can only attend to such queries "at my own convenience" of course

Mark C
BOG/CO

[walterleo]

Hi Mog:

I hope I was not the reason that you tried to download from Stellans homepage his own panel. What I referred to was his flying guide for the DC9-41. But I did not mention that this flying guide was written for a FS98 model. Therefore it is relevant only for the overall picture not for the small and important details (like speeds etc...).
I once tried to download also Stellan FS 2004 panel but had the same difficulties as you. But that was long before I got to know the HJG DC-9s.
If it was my fault, sorry!

I think you can be shure that the HJG DC-9-panels are the best choice available.

Kind regards

Walter

[mog]

Hi Gents,

Sorry for the delayed response, we had to change our IP and it took a couple of days.

Firstly Mark my apologies, since your (HJG) DC9 used and modified the Stellan Hilmerby original panels I incorrectly thought the was a link, I take your point regarding the progression of these panels they are certainly very good, here we go I hear you mutter, I have got one problem though, certain of the symbols are difficult for me to read, now this may well be me trying to do something on an elderly laptop but, I have difficulty reading the writing on the glareshield, next to the FD pitch control there is a rotary switch and I can't read any of the symbols around it, also on the ADF many of the digits are filled in and are just a blob so 8 and 0 look the same, as I say it may be because I am trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and I should use a better more up-to-date computer.

As far as the HJG DC9 panels perform I have to say they are great fun, I have almost mastered an ILS approach and landing, my next challenge is a smooth transition to autopilot post take off, if it were for real the sick bags would be full before we even reached cruising height! and given that I'm doing circuits and bumps out of Gatwick with no cabin crew and no pax most of the vomit would be from the first officer!

No Walter you are not to blame , if that's the right word, I came across Stellans' website by chance when idly googling as one does, and decided to give it a go having seen his name on this website, I have had an e-mail from him actually, he tells me he no longer uses FS2004 all his simming is on FSX these days.

With Xmas coming (AAARGH the X word!!!) which MD80 payware or freeware would you recommend, I've got the HJG ones but would like some more on the lines of HJGs' DC9 with all the bells and whistles, any Ideas guys?

Best regards and thanks for your replies

Mog

[walterleo]

Hi Mog:

If you or Santa want to spend 40 € Maddog MD 80 could be for you:

www.flythemaddog.com/

Kind regards

Walter

P.S.: Regarding the fine print on the panels: You can try other resulutions via the FS9 menue "settings". Its a little trial and error.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

"YES" .... All I can suggest is try altering (probably increasing) your graphics resolution .... both within WINDOWS and within FS too, but, making sure that both resolutions are set to the same values also.

I´d say these panels are best run on a PC with a decent sized monitor .... rather than on a Lap Top which could, very well, result in instrumntation that´s difficult to read because of the smaller screen size.

In regard to the AP ....

I, personally, like to (recommend) activate the AP .... ASAP after T/O .... since it "DOES" make for slightly easier handling (each of my basic flying guides for the HJG DC9´s are based of this particular preference). Other folk like to hand fly for a bit after T/O .... cleaning up and trimming up in the process .... and then activating the AP later. The choice is yours .... of course.

To aid understanding of the AP .... and its many functions/modes .... I´ve written a fairly extensive section about this into my "DC9 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES"/manual. See "SECTION 3" .... then paragraphs "3.0 through 3.5" within this particular section and for the appropriate information.

Here´s the manual link once again BTW ....
tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/3435/hjg-panel-installation-handling-notes

Mark C
BOG/CO

[mog]

Ok Mark all noted, I'll have a go at the resolution, I already have copied the AP. notes down, I think the main problem is the brain to control interface not to put too fine a point on it! I am a bit of a maladroit!

Thanks for the suggestion Walter, is it as good as the HJG DC9? I am looking something that will allow me to do everything, starting from cold through taxi, flight etc.etc. right the way back to shutdown on stand. Will the Maddog allow me to do this?

Cheers for now

Mog

[walterleo]

Hi Mog:

For the "glass" cockpit MD-80 its very good it has everything from flightpreparation, loading, MAC computation, etc... to the end. It can be navigated by VMC, radionavigation oder via the FMC. Repaints abound and the flightdynamics are good. If everything works perfect on an old computer its another question, but as a payware it has much more posibilities than the Spada-Golding panel.
If computerperformance is a consideration use the analog Golding-Woods panel for the early MD80s, you will find it here:

simviation.com/hjg/panels/mcdonnelldouglas.htm

It has even a working head up display, like the MD-80s of Austrian Airlines, which flew ILS CAT II by hand with that.

Kind regards

Walter

[mog]

Thanks Walter,

I did look at the Flight 1 one, but you think this is a better deal? I see Maddog do a Meridiana version, I worked on both their MD80s and their 146s, it looks like I shall have to start working on my daughter! Is it only available as a download or can one get it on disc, silly question really I should contact them for that information, forget I spoke.

All the best,

Mog

[walterleo]

Hi Mog: Dont know Flight 1 sorry, a cd version Maddog: Try to find one in a computershop, sometimes its offered as a spacial offer (FS9!!!)

Kind regards

Walter

[mog]

Ok Walter I'll look around, sorry for the delayed response, we lost telephone and internet for a few days because of a storm here in the south of England.

Best Wishes

Mog