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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Nov 16, 2013 12:20:22 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 16, 2013 12:56:21 GMT
NATIONAIR CANADA .... operated both scheduled and charter services .... under the banner of its NOLISAIR parent company.
It was founded during 1986 .... and ceased operations during 1993.
It was probably one of the last, if not "the very last", major North American operator of DC8´s .... on scheduled services at least.
It operated a fleet 4 DC8-61 (one of which was leased to HISPANIA AIRWAYS for sub-charter work), 2 DC8-62, and 2 DC8-63 aircraft .... along with 6 B747-100, 4 B747-200, and 10 B757-200 aircraft also.
These 5 NATIONAIR DC8 subjects will be released as part of the December/Christmas HJG website update .... and will join Tony´s other DC8-61 (white livery) and Yannick´s DC8-62 (red/grey livery) which are alrady available on the HJG "DC8-61" and "DC8-62" downloads pages respectively.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 15:53:43 GMT
BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL I can imagine how excited Canadian flight simmers will be!!!
GREAT PAINTS!!!
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by niclong81 on Nov 16, 2013 17:16:05 GMT
Beautiful texture, congratulations!!
Niclong81
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Post by Peter Liddell on Nov 20, 2013 15:24:35 GMT
Nice paints... and Aharon, excited... ummm anyone who knew them wouldn't be... Nationair, frankly, was a horrible airline. Safety seemed to be a passing inconvenience with them. The Jeddah crash really brought a lot of the bad issue to light and (thankfully many will say) doomed the airline. It's still and probably will always be the worst DC-8 crash. I know 2 people that worked there, one as a cabin attendant, one as a ramp mech, both will haunt your dreams with stories of safety issues, slipshod repairs and the like... my friend who was a mechanic was fired for refusing to sign off on a defective aircraft and he wasn't alone. The flight attendant... she was one of the locked out ones and she never went back. She worked for Royal later, now works as an office administrator. She still is owed money by the Nationair estate (she'll never get it of course). Nationair is the only airline i ever witnessed having 2 emergencies ON THE SAME DAY too. One morning i watched a 757 tailstrike on whats now runway 23 at YYZ. Later the same day a 747 came in with a stuck flap... lots of emergency vehicles around for that one! Ever seen a 747 do a fast landing? I had pictures of that landing (it was on whats now 15L) shot from the hotel at Terminal 3 (Sheraton Gateway now, I think it was Swissport then)... wish i knew where they were! The fact that the owner, Frank Obadia, went to jail for fraud over the finances of Nationair should speak for itself as well. Some interesting tidbits can be found here: www.nationair-canada.com/new.html
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Post by Herman on Nov 20, 2013 16:38:39 GMT
Great paints and images of the Nationair fleet.
Peter....I wonder how many other airlines fall into similar catagories as Nationair???
Herman
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Post by Peter Liddell on Nov 20, 2013 17:16:47 GMT
Herman,
In Canada, I don't think any quite get as far down the hated list as NX... seriously the only airline i've heard similar horror stories about is Rich International.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 21:15:42 GMT
Yikes Never knew about horror stories about this airline BUT HEY their livery was pretty and cool, wasn't it?
I am impressed that Peter knows well about history of Canadian commercial aviation. I thought he specializes in history of Eastern.
Would not be surprised if Peter is going to start new virtual airline called Canada's Airlines In Era 1970/1980.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by Peter Liddell on Nov 20, 2013 22:03:29 GMT
geez I barely have time to keep VEA running right now... I did once consider launching a Virtual Austin Airways circa 1984... but that was many many moons ago. I grew up with the airlines in Canada in the 80s, so I do know them well. Wardair, CPAir, Pacific Western, Worldways, Nationair, EPA, Intair, Nordair, Quebecair... I remember them all, I remember watching 737-200s from 4 airlines takeoff from YYZ in a row, all domestic (EPA, PacWestern, CP, Nordair) , bracketed by Air Canada 727s and DC-9s and Tristars and those brand-spankin-new 767s... I remember the Canadian Merger very clearly, seeing a CPAir 737-200 taxi past with Canadi<n stickers, followed by a PacWestern one, same thing... The Air Canada A320 order, the crashes in Jeddah, Dryden, Cincinnati... and the near disaster in Gimli. I've kept up relationships with many people i've met who were in the industry then... some still are now... So yes, I love Eastern... but i love my homeland's airlines more
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 2:08:03 GMT
cool!!!!!
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Post by balkan154 on Jan 10, 2014 19:59:02 GMT
I've read about their Horror stories many times too But I've got to agree with Herman They sure had a very smart paint job Mark
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Post by christrott on Jan 11, 2014 23:24:57 GMT
In the US there were a couple of Non-Skeds that I've heard stories on, but for the most part in North America, Oceana, and Europe, if you're flying any scheduled passenger (or cargo) operations, you're probably on a pretty safe operation. Despite all the problems, the regulatory agencies have got most of the operators running scared (quite literally) that they'll miss something and a near mishap will occur. It's funny because most everyone is more scared of a near-miss than an actual crash because it seems that most of the regulators are actually more viscious after the "almost accident" than they are after a real one, especially those that have little to no real impact on the airworthiness or safety of the aircraft (see the MD-80 Wiring fix debacle where American Airlines was forced to RE-GROUND its fleet and RE-FIX the harnesses because they were wrapped clockwise instead of anti-clockwise plus incur a 30-some-odd Million $ fine).
If you ever want to hear horror stories, just ask a mechanic about the last time an FAA Insepctor showed up.
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