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Post by darrenvox on Apr 6, 2014 8:54:46 GMT
no, this is not the nwt tv show this airline started in the 1970s maybe about the same time the canadian airline started or whatever.. enjoy  |
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Apr 6, 2014 13:18:04 GMT
Looks like this Buffalo Airways is using an ex-VARIG 707-320C freighter, judgeing from the cheatline, but perhaps Mark might have more information about this airline and/or seven-oh-seven.
Klaus
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 6, 2014 19:47:11 GMT
BUFFALO AIRWUYS CARGO B707-341C N107BV
C/N # 19321
L/N # 532
F/F November 14th 1966
Delivered to VARIG BRAZILIAN AIRLINE (PP-VJS) December 28th 1966.
Leased to TRANSBRASIL AIRLINES (PP-PJS) September 20th 1982.
Returned to VARIG BRAZILIAN AIRLINES (PP-VJS) November 16th 1984.
Sold to AVIATION LEASING GROUP (N107BV) February 5th 1985.
Leased to BUFFALO AIRWAYS (N107BV) May 22nd 1989.
Sub leased to MALEV HUNGARIAN AIRLINES (N107BV) August 1990.
Returned to BUFFAKLO AIRWAYS (N107BV) April 1991.
Sub leased to FAST AIR (N107BV) April 1992.
Returned to BUFFALO AIRWAYS (N107BV) May 1994.
Returned to AVIATION LEASING GROUP (N107BV) May 1994.
Sold to NORSKE FINANCE NEDERLAND BV (4K-AZ3) June 11th 1994.
Leased to AZERBAIJAN AIRLINES AZAL (4K-AZ3) June 11th 1994.
Transferred to AZARBAUJAN AIRLINES CARGO AHY (4K-AZ3) December 1997.
Returned to NORSKE FINANCE NEDERLAND BV (4K-AZ3) January 1998 .... withdrwan from use and stored at Southend, Essex, UK.
Sold to AVIATION LEASING GROUP INC (N8190U) March 24th 1999 .... scrapped during February 2002.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Apr 7, 2014 4:42:31 GMT
I knew that Mark has some information about that bird.  Looks like that this bird was leased/subleased a lot during its active life. Klaus |
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Post by darrenvox on Apr 11, 2014 6:03:22 GMT
this airline of the image does not exist
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 11, 2014 14:26:42 GMT
"OH YES IT DID" ....
It actually operated a number of different B707-320C's which were leased from other operators throughout the 1980's .... among which I can confirm ech of the following ....
N106BV
N107BV
N108BV
N8404
N8405
N862BX
.... and some of which remained in the livery of their respective owner operators with either "BUFFALO AIRWAYS" fuselage titles and tail logo added, or, no fuslage titles and tail logo added at all.
It's got to be remembered that some air freight companies (in partuicular) don't own their own aircraft. They simply "lease" them for various durations and in accordance with need.
It's also not uncommon for a particular established air freight carrier to set up a subsidiary wing too .... in order to fly routes and contracts it possibly may not want to be seen to be so obviously/directly connected with.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by christrott on Apr 11, 2014 15:36:45 GMT
Mark, I think he's speaking of the fact that Buffalo Airways was owned/operated by Farhad Azima, who's previous airline was Global International Airways which was a front for the CIA and shutdown after being linked to the Iran-Contra operations. However, Buffalo Airways (who probably did still deal with the CIA) did a lot of "white" work as well and was a "Certificate of Record" for several Aviation Leasing Group leasing transactions in its later days of operations (ALG being another Azima operation). It was also the final operator to actually fly the CL-44-O "Skymoster" prior to "selling" it to ALG. www.airliners.net/photo/Buffalo-Airways/Canadair-%28Conroy%29-CL-44-O/0165931/M/ |
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Post by tristar on Apr 11, 2014 15:42:39 GMT
"OH YES IT DID" .... It actually operated a number of different B707-320C's which were leased from other operators throughout the 1990's .... among which I can confirm ech of the following .... N108BV N8404 N8405 N106BV N107BV N862BX .... and some of which remained in the livery of their respective owner operators with either "BUFFALO AIRWAYS" fuselage titles and tail logo added, or, no fuslage titles and tail logo added at all. It's got to be remembered that some air freight companies (in partuicular) don't own their own aircraft. They simply "lease" them for various durations and in accordance with need. It's also not uncommon for a particular established air freight carrier to set up a subsidiary wing too .... in order to fly routes and contracts it possibly may not want to be seen to be so obviously/directly connected with. The airline industry can be "funny" like that. Mark C AKL/NZ
Hi Mark.
Back in the early 80's, this anorak plane spotter was watching Buffalo 707's on Saturday mornings doing pax charters into LGW.
Now where is my log book. My database needs updating before I can use it again, so I'll have to find the paper substitute.
Nope, 2005 is the earliest I can put my hand to
I can remember that at least one was ex TAP as it still had the TAP cheat line with Buffalo titles and tail logo.
They used 2 707's and I remember that I did not need either frame.
This was the early 80's so they had been around for a quite a while.
OK, just dug out my Air Britain 707 book from the late 90's, so they should be in there.
OK, N105BV C/N 20297 ex CS-TBF 382B ex TAP. Operated from Nov 83 to Dec 85 and is now C-137C 85-6974.
The other was also ex TAP and Caledonian before that. N106BV C/N 19415 ex CS-TBH and G-AVKA 399C.
Opt from Nov 1983 until Jul 1985 when leased to TAP. Returned Nov 1985 then to Southern Air Transport and bought back again in 1992 and operated for Burlington until 1993 then stored. Became 4K-AZ4 in 1995 and 9G-OOD in 1998 ten my book is out of date 
I guess this aircraft might also have had a TAP cheat line.
It must have been the summer of 1984 that they did the pax charters.
So Buffalo Airways has been around since at least 1983.
Paul
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Post by christrott on Apr 11, 2014 16:11:20 GMT
Buffalo was founded in early 1982 as Global International Airways was embroiled in the Iran-Contra hearings (officially, Global "failed" in 1984), and got its first airplane about 6 months later according to the information I've found. I think we were typing at the same time, so there's some overlap in information.  |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 11, 2014 20:37:05 GMT
Actually .... my 1990's quoted date was "a typo" that was intended to have read "1980's" .... so I've corrected that accordingly.
BUFFALO did continue to fly into the 1990's though.
The rest is as I mentioned .... in that it "DID" exist ... albeit "possibly" as a front (as suggested by Chtis) or otherwise .... with Paul's evidence (in particular) coinciding almost precisely with some of what I've seen/researched so far also.
Beyond this I couldn't find much else about BUFFALO at all.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by tristar on Apr 11, 2014 21:42:44 GMT
Buffalo was founded in early 1982 as Global International Airways was embroiled in the Iran-Contra hearings (officially, Global "failed" in 1984), and got its first airplane about 6 months later according to the information I've found. I think we were typing at the same time, so there's some overlap in information. Hi Chris we did. From my data base N105BV went into the log book on the 23-06-1984 at LGW on flight BV500 N106BV went into the log book on the 16-06-1984 ditto the above. Notes say both had TAP cheat lines with Buffalo Logo and titles. Global was another regular into LGW, and brought in some AA 707's that I needed (but including N8416 which spent some time with BCAL). The rest of the 707's were ex PA or TW. They also had that horrid schemed 747 leased from AC. If I remember correctly it was C-FTOA. American Transair also brought in ex AA 707's and one year even the 100's did a flight every Saturday Morning. Gone but not forgotten. Not forgetting Arrow Air With 707's, DC-8's and when CL went belly up, DC10-10's. The Good Old Days below, very late 70's I think. Attachment DeletedPaul |
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Post by christrott on Apr 12, 2014 1:30:56 GMT
Wow, a couple of very early liveried Tradewinds 707's in the background there. I'm sure the 70's and 80's were quite an interesting time with all the changeover going on from Pistons to Jets to Widebodies all occuring within 15 years and all 3 sharing the same airspace for some time as the 2nd and 3rd line operators kept them all running.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 12, 2014 2:07:28 GMT
One of your pictures Paul ? I like that TAT F27/FH227 in the foreground (apparently from my region of France) .... "VIVE LA TOURS/LA TOURAINE .... la jardin de France" I remember we had TRASDEWINDS B707-320C's pass through AKL/NZAA a couple during the 1980's .... among many other freight B707 charters too .... most of which I shot. I could never get TRADEWINDS aircraft though .... because each time they came through AKL it was always under the cover of darkness  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by tristar on Apr 12, 2014 16:33:44 GMT
One of your pictures Paul ? I like that TAT F27/FH227 in the foreground (apparently from my region of France) .... "VIVE LA TOURS/LA TOURAINE .... la jardin de France" I remember we had TRASDEWINDS B707-320C's pass through AKL/NZAA a couple during the 1980's .... among many other freight B707 charters too .... most of which I shot. I could never get TRADEWINDS aircraft though .... because each time they came through AKL it was always under the cover of darkness Mark C AKL/NZ Hi Mark. Yep, one of mine taken from the now closed spectators gallery at LGW. You can see that they were just starting on the satellite terminal long before the north terminal was thought of. During the summer on Saturday's you would two TAT FH-227B's in. That was the first to arrive. Behind that is a Dan Dare 748 in what was then the new colours before they got the Arkia 1-11 and reversed the colours on that for another new scheme. A Eastern Airways and Air Atlantique C-47's to the right and at the long demolished cargo sheds, 2 x Traidwinds 707, A Tarom 707, Air Zimbabwe 707 and finally a titles and logo less Scimitar 707. During the 70's this was my second home  Attachment DeletedSome more nostalgia. Slides a bid grubby, but no 737 or A320 in sight  Actually, I lie. The aircraft on the front bottom right was Air Europe's first 737-200, but that does not count, it smokes  Paul |
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Post by darrenvox on Apr 14, 2014 13:20:56 GMT
so whith all of this going on...anyone up for painting this??
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