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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 1:44:11 GMT
The Good news is, the re-installs of the MD-81's have gone very well - except for one minor thing...
Despite adding the [OLDMODULES] section, that I copied and pasted, not only the header, but the line below it,(from the install instructions,) and saved the edit. Closed the file and opened it back up (just to double check.) Lo and behold, there it was.
Unfortunately, even with that in place, I'm still being told by FS9 that these are old modules, and can't be run by the simulator. Press ok to continue. (Which is basically what it said.) I clicked ok, then everything would load as normal...
Can you help me out?
Thrills and Chills
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 22, 2015 4:56:58 GMT
The only reasom that will happen is if one hasn't performed the edit correctly.
The full and complete edit reads as follows .... and must be copied & pasted (recommended) to the "FS9.CFG" file as follws ....
[OLDMODULES]
FSSound.dll=1
The slightest error with this edit .... including the possibility of your have edited it to the wrong CFG.FILE .... then it's simply not goig to work.
The FS inciompastiility advisory generally relates only to the "FSSOUND.DLL" only .... since no other gauges are implicated, or known to be problematic, within either of the 2 GOLDING or even the SPADA MD-80 panels. If any other gauge, or gauges plural), were implicated then the FS generated warning would indicate the name of the particular gauge filedetected .... and it would then be up to "you" to inform us accordingly.
Additionally .... that particular warning is simply an advisory "ONLY" (meaning FS isn't sure about the integrety of the referenced file .... but .... there's nothing at all wrong with it) .... and all one then needs do is select "YES/OK" in response to that particular advisory and the panel, and all of its gauges, will load, and perform, perfectly within FS.
AGAIN .... the only known FS advisiory in regard to these panels is in respect of the "FSSOUND.DLL" (many panels old and new, HJG and non-HJG alike, use this particular DLL file. It's not a problem .... unless you've added somethig extra that's not supplied or endorsed by HJG.
ONCE AGAIN ALSO .... if the advisory is in regard to the "FSSOUND.DLL" then this can only occurr if the FS9.CFG (not the AIRCRAFT.CFG or PANEL.CFG) hasn't been coerectly .... or at all.
I'd be looking very closely at the latter .... by making sure it was the "FS9.CFG" that you (supposedly) applied this edit to in preference to anything else !!!!
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 6:40:03 GMT
The location of the FS9.CFG I am editing is located:
C:\Users\**Your ID**\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FS9
That's the right location, right? The one that is the "active" .cfg? Is that where you want the one you want edited, or added to?
Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks in advance,
Thrills and Chills
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 22, 2015 6:48:21 GMT
The destination folder for the FS9.CFG file depends on your WINDOWS OS version.
It's located within a different WINDOWS directory folder within different WINSOWS OS's.
Yiou haven't stated what WINDOWS OS you're using !!!!
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 7:04:44 GMT
My apologies...
Windows 7
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 22, 2015 7:34:09 GMT
On a WINDOWS 7 OS the directory path for the FS9.CFG should be as follows ....
C:\Users\**Your ID**\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FS9
Obviouisly you'll need to customize the "YOUR ID" portion .... but also .... bear-in-mind that the FS9.CFG is normally consealed a "hidden folder" by the same name within most WINDOWS OS, so, in order to be able to see, and edit, it at all, you're first going to need to activate the WINDOWS based "show all or hiiden files" option .... or its WINDOWS 7 equivalent.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 7:45:17 GMT
That's the one I've been editing, and like I said, I save the changes, and start the sim, then get the warnings, the aircraft loads, go back to check the fs9.cfg, and the edits, or additions, are gone. They just aren't there. I've repeated the process, and gotten the same result. I don't get it; it worked before, I reinstalled FS2004. This is a new installation, as new as I could get it anyway, through the good graces of my uninstalling programs.
So, I'm in the process of adding back in the HJG a/c.
Thrills and Chills
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 22, 2015 8:30:39 GMT
WELL .... there's something you're not doing right (and it's not an HJG related problem either .... because the same is going to result in cases of any other add-on panel using the FSSOUND.DLL, of which there are many, and which I assume to be the issue in this particular case) .... OR .... it could simply come down to "Administration Rights" over your own system in order to be able to save any edit (at a guess) you've applied .... but there again .... I'm not sufficiently familiar/qualified in regard to the WINDOWS 7 OS in order to be able to definitively further advise.
A word of advice here .... in so far as I can provide any advise at all ....
There's no point uninstalling/reinstalling FS.
That's not going to achieve anything or resolve your issue.
The issue to be resolved is likely far more fundamental .... as I've hinted above but can't direct you in regard to.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 19:29:23 GMT
Well, I did the re-install a few days ago; and it related to another issue that I posted about in another forum. However, I have to give you credit, where credit is due. You are right, The re-install did nothing to correct that problem.
The one thing it did do was, give me an opportunity to reassess if I wanted all of those airplanes in the Airplanes folder. (I had a lot of freeware aircraft in there.)
As far as Admin Rights go, all "User Names" or "Groups" (as they call them,) have full control.
So, "rights" isn't the issue.
At any rate, this is what the message says: (Perhaps it will shed some light on the situation...)
ERROR - FS9
"Flight Simulator was unable to load some aircraft or software. You can continue using Flight Simulator but this aircraft or software will be disabled"
File: AIRCRAFT\McDonnell Douglas MD-81_V1.1\panel.md80_golding_white\ILH_TCAS.GAU.
And below that is the "OK" button.
This dialog box comes up 3 times displaying the same information....
Would the [OLDMODULES] edit take care of that dialog - that references the ILH_TCAS.GAU as well?
FSSound.dll=1
Thanks in advance,
Thrills and Chills
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 22, 2015 20:18:23 GMT
Once again .... there's something you're not doing right here !!!! Where have you installed the TCAS related files .... or rather .... the contents of the "FS2004" folder (the 2X TCAS files) ? Think we've been down this particular garden path recently in regard to correct installation protocol for these panel files .... BUT ANYWAY .... The installaton instructions, which accompany both of the GOLDING MD-80 panels, specifically state that the content of the "FS2004" folder (the 2X TCAS files only .... and not the whole folder intact in case you've done that) must be installed inside the "FLIGHT SIMULATOR 9" folder and nowhere else .... not in the FS9 GAUGES folder nor in the FS9 MODULES folder just in case you might have done that also. There is an ILH TCAS gauge associated with the content of the Panel folder, but it, like each of the other gauges which accompany that panel, should be retained inside the panel folder .... as also indstructed If these files are not installed correctly .... then .... the panels are not going to display, or display with missing parts, or crash FS, or FS will likely throw up a string of error messages such as you appear to be experiencing. I've never known, or heard of, any situation (that I can immediately recall) whereby FS queries any of the TCAS related components, or any other gauge file supplied with these panels (provided they're correctly installed to start with) .... save for the FSSOUND.DLL file and which "IS" a standard FS response in regard to this one file (in many different panels .... not just HJG offerings), but, one which is also then cancelled by the necessary OLDMODULES edit. BEAR-IN-MIND PLEASE .... I'm on the outside here, and trying to look back inside, in regard to what you may have done that is possibly causative of your experience, but, I cannot necessarily see precisely what you have done .... or how !!!!   1. I do think you need to carefully take stock of where you at/what you're doing in regard to the installation of these panels. 2. You also still need to be able to sort out the OLD MODULES/FSSOUND.DLL related edit too .... and which should only require a fundamental administrator authorization right in more recent WINDOWS OS versions (beyond XP) in order to be able to apply, and save this edit, within the FS9.CFG in order to permanently canel the FS advisory. Beyond this advice (and unless anything more definitive is expressed) I'm all out of answers now Not if you cannot apply, and then save, this edit with the FS9.CFG .... and in any case, if applied, it would require a (hitherto) unheard additional edit to the CFG.file !!!! Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by thrillsandchills on Dec 22, 2015 23:03:38 GMT
Just to bring this to a happy ending - and full circle:
What happened was, somehow or other, the two files in the "2004" folder were not placed inside the "FLIGHT SIMULATOR 9" folder. Once I did place the two files inside the root directory, all the warning signs, or advisory signs stopped.
Thanks Mark for all your support. I appreciate it.
Thrills and Chills
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