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Post by flyingfox on Mar 10, 2018 12:35:03 GMT
Hi George,
thanks for also providing more information. Sounds really good. Why not consider also offering a version of the panel that includes the ATN Pushback gauge and ISG? ISG is payware, but there are quite a few users out there and those who do not know it, may actually really appreciate the fact that they were told that they exist. If you want to fly online at VATSIM you should be able to follow RNAV-procedures - those oldtimers also contain upgraded flightdecks, otherwise they were not allowed to operate in the real world.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 10, 2018 20:22:31 GMT
If it's payware .... then .... we can't add it to anything we offer and without a commercial agreement/authorization between us and its developer. And even if we could .... then .... all 11 new DC-10 panels (not just 1 or some) would need to be similarly/identically featured .... "in terms of that particular module". The thing though is .... It's taken us some 3 years to develop this particular project expansion (that time factor is largely due to the realities of our own lifestyles and professional commitments) .... a little longer that our original/basic DC-10 project/concept took to develop prior to its release during December 2014. During the period of "this re-development" we've not only had to rebuild the current panels (and edit some 3D models too), plus rework the FDE in order to support some of the new panel features .... but .... we've also had to study the systems of the real world aircraft too (aided by a group of retired ex AIR NZ F/E/s and other more recent real world DC-10 knowledge) .... in order to be able sensibly incorporate "what we can" (and not everything can be incorporated due to the limitations of FS itself of course) into this redevelopment. So .... we eventually get to a point where we need to/must draw a line in regard to what we're going to equip these panels/simulations with as part of this gestation .... otherwise they'll be release posthumously in regard to my own limited longevity "Suggestion" welcome and appreciated .... of course .... but .... my feeling is if folk want to add any piece of payware to their simulations then they'll need to do that themselves .... and more-so if the edit is a commercially obtained item. The other things I also need to say in regard to this is .... If folk wish to edit their panels simulations with non-HJG supplied edits then the following will apply .... 1. We can't provide support for anything we don't supply as part of any of our simulations. 2. We can't know what adverse impact (if any .... and there may be none at all) any such edits might impose upon what we compile (we "have" seen some minor issues in the past) .... and especially in regard to these new DC-10 panels. These details "do" need being born in mind Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by flyingfox on Mar 10, 2018 23:09:52 GMT
Sure, I understand. The good thing with ISG is that you would not have to include any of its gauges/bitmaps, but just modify the panel.cfg, that's all. In other words, there would be agreement/authorization required. On the contrary, you'd actually promote ISG, it would be a win-win situation.
Basically the ISG-gauges will replace the ADI, EHSI, add an FMC, LNAV button, so nothing "sinister". I can provide you a screenshot, if you like.
But I do accept that you have made up your minds and you operate accordingly, fair enough.
PS: what a pity we did not meet up, I just stayed a few days in Auckland...
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 10, 2018 23:45:02 GMT
Once again .... we're committed to what we've applied (as will be seen later) .... for this gestation at least Thanks for your understanding .... and any/most suggestions (whether we accept/implement them or not) are quite welcome. What brought you to AKL ? .... And from where ? Mark C AKL/NZ & BOG/CO
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Post by walterleo on Mar 11, 2018 16:29:27 GMT
Hi friends: As I am tinkering around with panels since years all arguments here demanding caution in that matter are well founded. Simply changing the ADI or HSI in a more advanced simulation can create serious problems with the autopilot which sometimes even with changes in the aircraft.cfg cannot be solved. So implementing foreign gauges CAN work but sometimes resembles trying an open heart operation with a Swiss Army Knife. So no wonder if VOR radials, altitude select or climb descent rates show strange behaviour. This can happen even if your FS installation still is sound. Kind regards Walter P.S.: Sometimes also I think: "Would be nice to have this or that in ...?" But that is always for ones own delight.
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Post by flyingfox on Mar 11, 2018 23:49:24 GMT
Yes, sure, there's always a risk. My issues arose out of the blue, a long time after I had altered any panel... mark: I spent the month of January in NZ on vacation, been to almost everywhere by light aircraft (hire one myself) and by car (south island only). Some photos are here: www.instagram.com/theaviationfox/
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Post by joscyriacv2 on Mar 12, 2018 10:37:36 GMT
Just let me say that the new DC-10 panels (currently in testing) will combine a panel lighting system like that of our 707/720 panel series, systems simulation like our DC-9 panel series (but in a more user-friendly form) and an autopilot as comprehensive as that of our L-1011 panel series. George DC10! DC10! DC10! I like the build-up to the release. Hoping you could post some sneak peek pics of the panel
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 12, 2018 19:03:44 GMT
When I present "a much fuller and descriptive" feature (as an extension to the current thread) .... then .... that'll be the signal that's it's only days away from being released.
Prior to then .... we don't what to give away too much too soon (for a variety of reasons) .... among which is the interest/s of peserving the element of surprise/s.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by flyingfox on Apr 5, 2018 9:34:21 GMT
Hi all, I wanted to provide closure to this topic. I have re-installed FS2004 on my new computer (along with X-Plane 11...P3D probably to come in the future) and the problem was gone. Then, when porting my old FS2004-installation, the problem re-occurred. I re-instated the original FS9.CFG and it worked again as advertised. Obviously, something is/was off in FS9.CFG and I will need to find out what. Just to sum it up: I can fly the HJG MD80 again (and all the other great freeware aircraft). I am actually using the Samuli MD80 panel, spiced up with ISG, works fine! On the screenshot ignore the GPS-Map, the shot is not from my computer. Thanks a bunch for trying to help me and sorry for using up your valuable time for a self-produced problem. I should have known that deleting FS9.CFG solves most of errors... All the best from Germany, Andreas
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 5, 2018 18:33:10 GMT
No problem Andreas .... we're here to help and that's what we try'n do here .... mostly successfully Thanks for taking the time to come back to us and declare your status with these files .... that's appreciated because it helps other folk to understand what we offer is fine Enjoy the HJG MD-80's/90's .... and look forward to a small, but, improving update for some of these later .... but precisely how much later I can't say with certainty at the moment due to a backlog of new, and developing, files we're trying to release ASAP. BTW .... you're image link isn't displaying .... I had a look at it, but, can't seem to correct it for you, so, have a look at it when you've got time to do so Mark C AKL/NZ
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