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Post by sentry50 on Dec 8, 2007 1:20:48 GMT
I remember seeing Piedmont 146's at National Airport in Washington D.C. when I was a kid. Will you be doing any repaints of them?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2007 2:17:13 GMT
So long as it's "REALWORLD" .... as you already indicate it is, then we undoubtably will .... eventually ! However .... if the PIEDMONT birds were series -200 aircraft, which I suspect they probably were, then their representation will need to wait until we have a series -200 model to offer. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on Dec 8, 2007 13:00:40 GMT
AS far as I know Piedmont dod not operate the type Information on operators can be found here Could be useful to check the types etc before making requests as a lot are being made for non series 300 www.smiliner.com/operators/operators.shtmlGarry
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2007 18:30:27 GMT
HMMM .... then I wonder what "SENTRY50" saw ! If it aint realworld and verified by photo referencing .... then we aint gonna do it at all ! There's actually a very rare experimental AMERICAN AIRLINES B720-B livery from around the late 1990's or early 1970's (discussed on this forum more than 1 year ago) that kind of falls into this categeory. We know it existed .... but .... can't find a singlesuitable photo to verify the aircraft registration in order to offer it as a repaint. "OFF TOPIC" .... I know .... but .... just thought I'd mention it anyway ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by John Keane - HJG on Dec 8, 2007 21:14:52 GMT
Mark
I think he may have seen the Piedmont Commuter/Ransome/Henson Airlines Dash 7 or Dash 8 instead of a -146. They had rather substantial fleets of the Dash 7 and 8 at the time. The two look rather similar to a -146 from a distance and they had quite a BIG operation with the Dash's at DCA way back then. I flew Piedmont quite often when I was in college, was a neat airline. Usually flew back and forth from home to college during holidays from Akron-Canton to their Dayton, Ohio hub and on into either Newark or Philly.
Regards John
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2007 21:26:22 GMT
HMMM .... that might very well explain things. Thanks John ! Now .... if only I could nail this very rare AMERICAN AIRLINES B720-B livery from the late 1960's/early 1970's Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by John Keane - HJG on Dec 8, 2007 21:48:56 GMT
Yeah from a distance the Dash 7 and 8 are really squared off looking and that T-tail arrangement in the rear could make it rather easy to think you're seeing a -146 when it's actually something much different. A Dash 7 looks like a mini-C141B with props and the -146 follows similarly only with those little hairdryer lookin' Avco-Lycoming jets. Ransome and Henson had a big contract with PI back then and you'd see them all over the NE USA. Big in the DC-Baltimore-Philly-New York-Boston markets especially.
Which American Airlines livery are you talking about on the 720B? I have a color picture in my 720 book showing the "Eagle-less" AA logo on the tail. Is that the livery you're after? That's about the only rare AA livery I know of.
Regards John
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2007 1:03:27 GMT
That could very well be the one John ! The rarebird I've been referring to above was per a repaint preview done by someone else and apparently based on a magazine photo from years back .... but .... the registration of the aircraft could never be determined. I also recall the aircraft featured different fuselage stripping .... possibly a blue and red full fuselage lines .... but .... I'm going from memory here. I'm more sure about this when you mebtion the "EAGLE-less" tail .... because that's precisely what this aircraft featured. I remember in forum commentary at the time someone stated that even though C.SMITH was no longer then CEO of AMERICAN AIRLINES at the time this experimental livery was first revealed on an aircraft, he apparently felt strongly enough about the "EAGLE-less" tail to complain to whoever was then at the helm of the airline. If I can find the original preview imagery then I'll repost it "here", but failing that, if you can scan an send me a copy of the image you have then I'll be able to confirm whether or not it's the same one I'm referring to above. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by botamern on Dec 9, 2007 20:29:28 GMT
From what references I have, there wasn't an experimental AA livery per se, it was just changed a bit after being applied.
B720-023B N7258A was the first plane painted in what is essentially AA's current paint job. It lacked the eagle on the tail and did not have Astrojet titles under the nose. Also, the black anti glare paint was applied differently to the nose.
Beyond that it was identical to what AA planes look like now. The one reference photo I have makes mention that it was taken "before the stylized eagle was applied" so it is possible the shot was taken before painting was completed.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2007 21:05:07 GMT
INTERESTING !
I'm still trying to locate the previoiusly posted preview of someones repaint of the aircraft .... which was supposedly based upon an image appearing in an old magazine from Eastern Europe .... as I recall !
That registration helps though !
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by matthiasl on Dec 9, 2007 21:05:58 GMT
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