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Post by claudiofalcao on Jun 23, 2020 18:57:24 GMT
Hello! Is there any chance for a HJG MD11 (based on IFDG MD11)? IFDG is a excelent freeware model and it has 6 models (4 GE's engines and 2 PW), PAX and F versions. The only problem now, is about the nav and strobe lights that stay floating over the wing when it is on the ground.
Regards.
Cláudio - Brasil
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 23, 2020 19:53:14 GMT
It's not that we haven't thought about .... or can't do something .... but rather .... it's just that there's far more involved with the introduction of anything new than most people can ever visualize or that meets the eye .... "if it's to be done properly" I mean "A panel" is the biggest stumbling block since nothing really adequate (in our assessment) exists .... and whatever panel we did introduce would need to be based on the combing for the DC-10 panels we currently offer (which set the standard from the start), but, extensively modified. "IF" .... we ever offer an MD-10 panel .... THEN .... there might be the arena of opportunity within which to consider the MD-11 .... but .... I can't really see that happening "at the moment" That's what can, and usually will, happen in the case of a GMAX model when lighting isn't hard-coded into the actual model. You'll probably find that when the wings flex in flight the lighting then becomes properly aligned.  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by claudiofalcao on Jun 23, 2020 20:53:43 GMT
It's not that we haven't thought about .... or can't do something .... but rather .... it's just that there's far more involved with the introduction anything new than most people can ever visualize or that meets the eye .... "if it's to be done properly" I mean "A panel" is the biggest stumbling block since nothing really adequate (in our assessment) exists .... and whatever panel we did introduce would need to be based on the combing for the DC-10 panels we currently offer (which set the standard from the start), but, extensively modified. "IF" .... we ever offer an MD-10 panel .... THEN .... there might be an arena of opportunity within which to consider the MD-11 .... but .... I can't really see that happening "at the moment" That's what can, and usually will, happen in the case of a GMAX model when lighting isn't hard-coded into the actual model. You'll probably find that when the wings flex in flight the lighting then becomes properly aligned. Mark C AKL/NZ Thank you for your response, mate! About the panel, IMHO, you could consider the Alain Capt.'s panel (ACS). I think that it has good features to use in a future MD11 and also MD10.
About the lights, I know that during the flight the lights are aligned with the wings, but it very strange when on the ground see those lights floating over the wing. Anyway, I hope to see, one day, a MD11 using the HJG brand. Cheers.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 23, 2020 21:16:19 GMT
NAH .... anything we do, "IF" we ever did it at all, would "have to" be based on what we already currently offer .... in order to be "consistent" otherwise it's probably not worth our doing so .... and that's despite the fact there's already a degree of "inconsistency" among the MD-80/90 panel options we currently offer only "by virtue of the fact we imported these particular panels and haven't ever done anything to modify them". An HJG MD-11 panel could only be something that grows our of the DC-10 panel line we currently offer .... and then .... "only if we were to first develop an MD-10 specific panel from these same DC-10 versions". At the moment we've "no plans" to include the MD-11 (although I've seen presentations recently posted on another FB based FS media page that suggests someone might be doing something) .... unless someone, with these models, dies and then "will these to us" .... or is otherwise willing to offer us good MD-11 models .... and which might then motivate us accordingly  . Again .... that's because the lights probably aren't hard-coded to the model and are just unsecured "lighting blooms". They align as the wing tips flex upwards in flight .... but .... when the wings deflex on the ground lighting is then seen to float above the wing tips once again. It requires a model edit in order to be properly fixed. We commented about this within our L-1011 manual .... because the L-10ll model we currently host here demonstrates precisely the same wing tip lighting tendencies and for the same reason/s. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by claudiofalcao on Jun 24, 2020 21:35:14 GMT
NAH .... anything we do, "IF" we ever did it at all, would "have to" be based on what we already currently offer .... in order to be "consistent" otherwise it's probably not worth our doing so .... and that's despite the fact there's already a degree of "inconsistency" among the MD-80/90 panel options we currently offer only "by virtue of the fact we imported these particular panels and haven't ever done anything to modify them". An HJG MD-11 panel could only be something that grows our of the DC-10 panel line we currently offer .... and then .... "only if we were to first develop an MD-10 specific panel from these same DC-10 versions". At the moment we've "no plans" to include the MD-11 (although I've seen presentations recently posted on another FB based FS media page that suggests someone might be doing something) .... unless someone, with these models, dies and then "will these to us" .... or is otherwise willing to offer us good MD-11 models .... and which might then motivate us accordingly . Again .... that's because the lights probably aren't hard-coded to the model and are just unsecured "lighting blooms". They align as the wing tips flex upwards in flight .... but .... when the wings deflex on the ground lighting is then seen to float above the wing tips once again. It requires a model edit in order to be properly fixed. We commented about this within our L-1011 manual .... because the L-10ll model we currently host here demonstrates precisely the same wing tip lighting tendencies and for the same reason/s. Mark C AKL/NZ
OK. Thank you, Mark!
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Post by maverick2021 on May 4, 2021 0:52:12 GMT
NAH .... anything we do, "IF" we ever did it at all, would "have to" be based on what we already currently offer .... in order to be "consistent" otherwise it's probably not worth our doing so .... and that's despite the fact there's already a degree of "inconsistency" among the MD-80/90 panel options we currently offer only "by virtue of the fact we imported these particular panels and haven't ever done anything to modify them". An HJG MD-11 panel could only be something that grows our of the DC-10 panel line we currently offer .... and then .... "only if we were to first develop an MD-10 specific panel from these same DC-10 versions". At the moment we've "no plans" to include the MD-11 (although I've seen presentations recently posted on another FB based FS media page that suggests someone might be doing something) .... unless someone, with these models, dies and then "will these to us" .... or is otherwise willing to offer us good MD-11 models .... and which might then motivate us accordingly . Again .... that's because the lights probably aren't hard-coded to the model and are just unsecured "lighting blooms". They align as the wing tips flex upwards in flight .... but .... when the wings deflex on the ground lighting is then seen to float above the wing tips once again. It requires a model edit in order to be properly fixed. We commented about this within our L-1011 manual .... because the L-10ll model we currently host here demonstrates precisely the same wing tip lighting tendencies and for the same reason/s. Mark C AKL/NZ Would this fall into the category of "growing from the DC-10" or would it be that the MD-11 and DC-10 cockpits were radically different? ![]() drive.google.com/file/d/1aN5IZllBXWU0mqdoCjDTvtc7CIGWpVae/view?usp=sharingdrive.google.com/file/d/1OdkcX3DBzmY_2N_XWWB-TaVkRmEIg3c7/view?usp=sharing |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 4, 2021 2:06:09 GMT
Think you had some association with, or input in relation to, this said MD-11 at some stage .... didn't you Chesley ?
Mark C
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Post by maverick2021 on May 5, 2021 10:36:20 GMT
Think you had some association with, or input in relation to, this said MD-11 at some stage .... didn't you Chesley ? Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by maverick2021 on May 5, 2021 10:45:08 GMT
Think you had some association with, or input in relation to, this said MD-11 at some stage .... didn't you Chesley ? Mark C AKL/NZ This panel was created by scratch by me. It's had several evolutionary changes and I believe I'm at the 5th version. I've been using the ifdg model for testing. I prefer the GE model as the wing nav lights work better. The panel features a full overhead with realistic startup, a pedestal with nav/Com radios, a rudimentary FMC, aiRadar, cockpit Commander, Flight Info Display (for fuel calculations), HUD (Later versions had one), and a full compliment of 2D cockpit and wing views. I had to improvise and use 737NG cockpit views but the color scheme is the same and matches very well. I used GNS530 for GPS. Everything is set for high resolution 16:9 ratio wide-screen monitors. You won't find a more complete freeware project anywhere. Chesley |
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Post by Thales Coelho on Jun 21, 2021 17:32:14 GMT
NAH .... anything we do, "IF" we ever did it at all, would "have to" be based on what we already currently offer .... in order to be "consistent" otherwise it's probably not worth our doing so .... and that's despite the fact there's already a degree of "inconsistency" among the MD-80/90 panel options we currently offer only "by virtue of the fact we imported these particular panels and haven't ever done anything to modify them". An HJG MD-11 panel could only be something that grows our of the DC-10 panel line we currently offer .... and then .... "only if we were to first develop an MD-10 specific panel from these same DC-10 versions". At the moment we've "no plans" to include the MD-11 (although I've seen presentations recently posted on another FB based FS media page that suggests someone might be doing something) .... unless someone, with these models, dies and then "will these to us" .... or is otherwise willing to offer us good MD-11 models .... and which might then motivate us accordingly . Again .... that's because the lights probably aren't hard-coded to the model and are just unsecured "lighting blooms". They align as the wing tips flex upwards in flight .... but .... when the wings deflex on the ground lighting is then seen to float above the wing tips once again. It requires a model edit in order to be properly fixed. We commented about this within our L-1011 manual .... because the L-10ll model we currently host here demonstrates precisely the same wing tip lighting tendencies and for the same reason/s. Mark C AKL/NZ Would this fall into the category of "growing from the DC-10" or would it be that the MD-11 and DC-10 cockpits were radically different? ![]() drive.google.com/file/d/1aN5IZllBXWU0mqdoCjDTvtc7CIGWpVae/view?usp=sharingdrive.google.com/file/d/1OdkcX3DBzmY_2N_XWWB-TaVkRmEIg3c7/view?usp=sharingIs this panel available for download? Love that overhead! |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 21, 2021 18:59:45 GMT
To be able to access it you'd probably have to join Chesley HANN's FB group .... since that particular version of his panel "IS NOT" available from any of the major FS sites. To apply for membership of his FB group use the address referenced within my following-linked presentation for his recent B717-200 panel .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9958/chesley-hann-b717-200-panel?page=1&scrollTo=69599"IF YOU INTEND DOING SO" .... then note my commentary (within the above linked presentation) to the effect that people intending join his FB group must submit "a profile" .... since applications supported by blank profiles will be rejected. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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