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Post by comet45 on Apr 18, 2021 19:39:09 GMT
On approach. (P3D v4.5) C45  |
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Apr 19, 2021 12:00:31 GMT
That's no 707-420 jetliner. More like a -320B equipped with turbofans and to me it looks like an AI-bird. Since I'm still using FS9/FS2004, I'm curious if this bird comes with the P3D flightsim.
Klaus
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Post by walterleo on Apr 19, 2021 13:51:59 GMT
Hi friends: Klaus is right, it's not a 420 that had RR Conway engines with their typical "mixers".
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by comet45 on Apr 22, 2021 19:18:50 GMT
I'll trace this back to see what it was described as.
C45
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Post by comet45 on Apr 22, 2021 20:11:27 GMT
Gentlemen. It does not come with P3D & the Air France livery came with it. This is where I got it from: DOWNLOAD FSND Boeing 707-420 2013 FSX & P3D - Rikoooo www.rikoooo.com/downloads/viewdownload/55/201?Itemid=1065Apr 07, 2009 ยท Here is the complete Boeing 707 with full animation like wings and other mobile parts. included with custom sounds, a virtual cockpit, 2D panel, and much more ! DOWNLOAD FSND Boeing 707-420 2013 FSX & P3D - Rikoooo This was in the files: "FSX-SP2 Boeing 707-420 IMPROVED AND UPDATED Feb-23-2013 New windshield effect and without the female Copilot ,also new features by pressing Shift+5 in exterior mode Copyright by Alejandro Rojas Lucena - july 2008 Copyright by SIMVIATION.COM - May 2008 All repaints require my permission before release. Repaints for commercial purposes are forbidden. AIRCRAFT MADE BY ALEJANDRO ROJAS LUCENA AND BRETT HENDERSON IN cockpit FUNCTIONS, AVIONICS /INSTRUMENT TESTING AND GENERAL CONSULTING (AIRCRAFT.CFG ,AIR) GAUGE 707-320.GAU MADE BY GEORGE CARTHY FROM Historic jet" I'd be interested to know what it actually is? c45 |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 22, 2021 23:32:34 GMT
Whatever it is .... or isn't .... it's still "WRONG" .... as both Klaus, and Walter, have already "CORRECTLY" stated. The engines and V-fin identify that particular model as being an early production and P&W JT3D fan-jet powered -320B .... not an -ADV, or -C .... and certainly not a RR CONWAY fan-jet powered -420 either. Whilst the RR CONWAY engine heralded-in the era of fan-jet technology with regard to the B707 (and DC-8), only 37 B707-420's were ever produced by BOEING (versus 32 DC-8-40's poduced by DOUGLAS) .... each being delivered to AIR INDIA, BOAC/BRITISH AIRWAYS, CUNARD EAGLE, EL AL, LUFTHANSA, and VARIG only. In the case of AIR INDIA, EL AL, and LUFTHANSA these aircraft were eventually replaced with -320B ADV's and -C's. Other operators did acquire, or lease, B707-420's when as these aircraft began to be parted-out from the fleets of their original original operators, but, none retained them for any lengthy duration .... since the -320B ADV, and -C, were more economical and further supported by superior operating logistics too. The above 3D model looks, to me, to be a regurgitation of the old Roc DOLENEC (I think is his name) version which originates from prior to 2006. Love the way they say their product can't be exploited without approval, yet by their own admission/accreditation they've obviously seen fit use George CARTY's gauges .... which, so far as I'm aware, he's never sanctioned the use of  TO BE BRUTALLY HONEST .... and I'm not intending to promote HJG's product in regard to what I'm about to say ...."IF" you're really wanting a B707-420 (any B707/720 or C-135 for that matter), then .... "and for the time being at least" .... you're not going to find better "FREEWARE" versions than what's offered here (supported by George's panels customized for each different version, and Benoit's customized sound packs for each engine/aircraft type version, and our recently edited/re-released FDE too .... B707/B720 tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9861/b707-installation-handling-notesC-135 SERES tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9860/135-series-installation-handling-notes.... all which (technical feature-wise) exceed the accuracy of other payware and other products. The only limitation is .... our versions of these simulations are FS2004 compatible and FSX portable "ONLY" .... and which, for a number of reasons, is the way they'll remain. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Apr 23, 2021 9:13:58 GMT
The cabin windows appear stretched? being brutal... I think the whole shape is wrong.
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Post by walterleo on Apr 23, 2021 9:56:13 GMT
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Post by comet45 on Apr 23, 2021 12:17:25 GMT
Thank you for the Installation links, they will be used now that I have access to FSX, & the offending 707-?? has been dispatched from my SSD.  C45 |
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Post by walterleo on Apr 23, 2021 16:55:04 GMT
Hi Comet 45!
"offending 707-??" not offending anybody!
BUT the picture was really nice. With another download from RIKOOOO I noticed also, that they are not so painstakingly accurate as HJG tries to be.
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 23, 2021 22:22:27 GMT
Can't view your link Walter (looks like it's blocked), but, if captioned as a -420 then I believe that'll be "a typo" or "misidentification of the aircraft subject" by whomever uploaded and titled that image.
So far as I'm aware .... AF "never" operated, or even leased, the B707-420.
AF acquired the P&W JT4A turbojet powered "B707-320" (the first few of of which were delivered during 1959 featuring the original short tail fin which, during 1960, were modified with the tail fin extention and what thereafter became the standasrd b707/720 tail silhouette). AF took delivery of 21 -320's between 1959 and 1962 .... and which were eventually replaced with a sizeable fleet -320B ADV's and -C's from 1963. Both the -320 and -420 are "almost" identical .... save for their engine types .... RR P&W JT4A turbojet engines for the 320's and RR CONWAY 508 fan-jet engines for the -420's.. The exhaust pipes on the end of the CONWAY's being "slightly different" from those on the P&W JT4A's.
Just to clarify what I was really meaning in regards to my comment (of yesterday) concerning the HJG B707 flight line ....
I (perhaps) should have used the word "CONCISE" .... implying .... "the physical variation among the 3D models we/HJG offer for each individual B707/720 type are more thorough than has previously been represented per FS freeware or payware". That's how Gary CARLSON organized our B707 flight line from the very start .... back in 2002/3.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by comet45 on Apr 23, 2021 23:26:35 GMT
This is the image Walterleo was referring to: C45  |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 24, 2021 0:06:50 GMT
F-BHSI (named "Chateau De Josselin") C/N # 17621, L/N # 139.
FF June 9th 1960.
DEL to AF (with modified tail fin) July 11th 1960.
WFS and scrapped at Paris, Orly, April 1976.
"DEFINITELY" a -B707-320 (a -328 in the case of AF) .... "not" a -420. Note the different/P&W JT4A turbo-jet type exhaust pipes at the rear of the engines.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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