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Post by Herman on Aug 28, 2013 1:21:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 2:25:46 GMT
ok thanks Herman
Great photos!!
May I have your permission to use your first photo showing Eastern and second photo showing Pan Am, please?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 2:46:17 GMT
Waterleo, I have been searching all over Internet for any night photos of DC-8s so that I can see their wing beacons. So far, I cannot find any. However, I found DC-8 with light blue beacon on edge of right wing of DC-8 in that photo showing DC-8 further in background as seen below.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 2:52:02 GMT
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Aug 28, 2013 4:17:27 GMT
Nice photos Herman. The Eights are looking really proud on these photos (especially the first two ones).
Klaus
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Post by Herman on Aug 28, 2013 14:49:27 GMT
Aharon......feel free to use any photo as you like. Regarding your AL.net pictures what you might think is a blue nav light is actually green. For some reason they do look a little like blue....but remember that official regulation stipulates that aircraft nav lights must be ...Red on port wing...green on starboard wing.
Klaus...thanks for your comments.
Herman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 19:11:04 GMT
Regarding your AL.net pictures what you might think is a blue nav light is actually green. For some reason they do look a little like blue....but remember that official regulation stipulates that aircraft nav lights must be ...Red on port wing...green on starboard wing. Darn I do not know what I am supposed to use for my screenshots of DC-8: light blue beacon or green beacon on edge of right wing??? Anybody can help? I need to create extremely realistic screenshots. Regards, Aharon
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Post by Herman on Aug 28, 2013 22:13:36 GMT
Aharon....I'm not sure what the problem is. If you are using the HJG DC-8 the wing nav lights should be showing as I have indicated in my screen shots. If you are in doubt, do your screen shots at night timeand they should show up better.
I do have a book on the DC-8 so I will try to find it to see if it has some usefull pictures in it.
Herman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 22:28:32 GMT
Herman,
I think you misunderstood me. In my FSX, my DC-8s' right wings have white beacon on edge of right wings. I am informed by Dee that it is wrong color and it is supposed to be light blue light on edge of right wing. Also, you say it is supposed to be green light on edge of right wing.
Meaning I have three conflicting answers (three different colors). If the white light on edge of right wing of my DC-8s on my FSX is wrong color, then it is not problem for me as I can cover it up by clever editing on my editing software.
BUT the problem is what is actual correct color of the light beacon on edge of right wing of all DC-8s? Is it green or light blue?
When I get the answer, I can cover up white light beacon with edited green or light blue light whatever is the correct answer that I get from all of you and then proceed to create screenshots.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by Herman on Aug 29, 2013 14:58:48 GMT
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Post by 747braniffplace on Aug 29, 2013 15:59:13 GMT
Just my .02 cents, for what it's worth...I absolutely remember the Delta super 61's having green on the starboard wingtip...with the 'back-and-forth' style rotating beacon that gave the appearance of a pulsing light, from a distance. I used to watch them fly directly over my house, inbound from LAX, LAS and ATL back in the day...and the fuse had an upper and a lower that were also of the 'back-and-forth' type beacon as opposed to the fully 360-degree rotating sort that was popular on the 707's and 727's with many carriers.
Green for sure from the front part of the wing.
Just a simple, steady white light visible on the back-side of the wing, after they had flown over. No pulse, no strobe. Just a steady white light.
Funny I can not remember if there was a steady white light at the end of the fuselage or not but for sure no strobes of the present-day popular variety, at least on Delta's versions.
I also remember American bucking the trend of the 'rotating beacons' and going with actual strobes on their 727's...both on the wings as well as the fuselage. BN had strobes on the front-side of the wings, and rotating beacons on the fuse...
One of the ways it was easier to tell a DL bird from an AA or BN bird after the sun went down! (on the 727's, at least).
James DFW-TX
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Post by Herman on Aug 29, 2013 16:33:37 GMT
OK Aharon .....some further investigation. As you mentioned the Cayman DC-8-50 right wing nav light is white as shown in this screen shot. After looking at other HJG DC-8's it looks like all DC-8's prior to the DC-8-50 also have white lights on the right wing. Starting with the DC-8-60 this seems to have been corrected in subsequent models. I don't know if this issue can be corrected?? Hope this helps. Herman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 14:42:28 GMT
Herman,
Okay thanks I will wait for HJG's final official announced verdict on whether the light beacon on edge of right wing should be green or light blue before I start publishing screenshots.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 30, 2013 17:09:41 GMT
Starboard wing tip NAV lights on all aircraft (including DC8´s) .... like those on ships and boats also .... are "NOT" blue .... and "never have been" .... as one or two people have already, and quite correctly, commented in their attempt to "try and drive this particular point home" much earlier within this particular thread. What can make these lights "appear to be blue", in some photographic imagery, is often simply a case environmental lighting/lens reflection at the time the photograph was taken .... and/or .... poor colour separations during processing/printing procedures afterward and in regard to the image concerned .... or even a combination of both of these factors too. In the case of the HJG DC8 models starboard wing tip NAV lighting. Having just checked "EVERYTHING" (personally .... using the currently downloadable aircraft base packs/FDE for each aircraft type)I can confirm that this lighting on each of the following HJG DC8 models appears to be perfectly OK ("GREEN") .... DC8 SHIP ONE 1959 DC8-10 DC8-20 DC8-61 DC8-61CF/F DC8-62 DC8-62CF/F DC8-63 DC8-63CF/F DC8-71 DC8-71CF/F DC8-72 DC8-72CF/F DC8-73 DC8-73CF/F This lighting on each of the following HJG DC8 models "ONLY" does appear to be implicated though .... DC8-30 DC8-40 DC8-50 DC8-50CF/F "IF" one is not seeing this (as above) .... then one may have their HJG DC8 FDE´s muddled .... OR .... may even need to check/look at their monitor colour settings. Additionally .... there should be no difference in regard to these observations between either FS2004 and FSX installations of these aircraft. The reported issue is most likely to be the result of a minor "LIGHTING" configuration error/inconsistency within the AIR.FILE data for each of the 4 DC8 aircraft models afflicted .... since none of the DC8 CFG files contains any such LIGHTING reference data. I don´t think this is a model issue .... and whatever the case may be has abviously been "the case" since around 2002/3 (prior to the advent of the current new HJG era .... since April 2006) when most of the HJG DC8 FDE´s were last updated. This particular issue "WILL" be visited though as part of my own current, and still slowly progressing, HJG DC8 FDE update .... which is, as yet, still quite a way off being ready for release. Mark C BOG/COL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 20:01:59 GMT
Thanks for reply. That means I can go ahead and create screenshots of DC-8s using green for light beacons on right wings of DC-8s.
Regards,
Aharon
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