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Post by psolov on Nov 17, 2009 19:07:09 GMT
Hi everyone, I am sort of new to this site and was wondering if I am a bit confused about how to install these historic Jets. I was trying to install some DC-8 aircraft and I referred to the FAQ section about how to install. It appeared that I could simply unzip the base pack into the FSX simobjects folder, change the cfg file to the fsx version, and then install additional liveries as needed. However, I tried just about everything and could not get the plane to show up in the FSX aircraft screen. I have seen some of the threads about how to install, but there seems to be many steps and a high chance for error (I tried last year and did not get it to work properly). Is there in fact a way to install these easily; such as with just a few clicks, or does the install for FSX have to be done one piece at a time? I apologize if this question has been posted, and thanks in advance for your help.
Pete
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Post by garryrussell on Nov 17, 2009 22:58:04 GMT
Hi Pete
I'm afraid you just have to follow the steps no matter how many there may be.
Remember these are not FSX aircraft so more effort will be needed to get them into sim.
If there was an easier version with just a few clicks then that is how they would be presented.
There is no attempt to make things any harder than they need be.
But followed carefully and exactly will produce the results.
It does work
Garry
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Post by psolov on Nov 17, 2009 23:54:07 GMT
Hi Pete I'm afraid you just have to follow the steps no matter how many there may be. Remember these are not FSX aircraft so more effort will be needed to get them into sim. If there was an easier version with just a few clicks then that is how they would be presented. There is no attempt to make things any harder than they need be. But followed carefully and exactly will produce the results. It does work Garry Thanks Garry, I figured that would be the case. I will give it a shot tonight and see if I can make the grade! Pete
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Post by psolov on Nov 18, 2009 2:50:35 GMT
Garry,
I got it to work. I will give the plane a whirl and see how she flies.
O.k., I am flying the DC-8 - 63 and the sound is sort of low once the gear goes up, and I don't notice any sound volume change when the engines are turned up or down. Is this normal, or is there maybe a small sound issue?
Thanks Again, Pete
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 18, 2009 4:07:39 GMT
I don't notice any sound volume change when the engines are turned up or down. Is this normal[/quote] NOPE ! None that I'm aware of ! Please explain precisely how .... and where .... you have installed your soundpack. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by scottieb on Nov 18, 2009 14:36:13 GMT
Part of the problem is the overly complex installation instructions of HJG a/c in general. It's easier to install them in FSX like any other a/c. Aliasing panels/sounds as other a/c. Having all these extra folders allows for a greater probability of errors to occur. Complexity may appear impressive, and it will work, but keeping it simple saves frustration.
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Post by psolov on Nov 18, 2009 14:39:50 GMT
I don't notice any sound volume change when the engines are turned up or down. Is this normal NOPE ! None that I'm aware of ! Please explain precisely how .... and where .... you have installed your soundpack. Mark C AKL/NZ[/quote] Hi Mark, I put the sound core files into the FSX Main Sound folder, and after oringinally just dropping the DC-8 sound folder into the FSX sound folder, I then removed all of the DC-8 files directly into the FSX main sound folder. I apologize if I am not being clear but I am at work right now. The only other sound file I have is the sound folder with the cfg file in the Aircraft folder. The funny thing is that the sound works, so I get warnings, gear deployment sound, etc., but I don't hear the revving of the engines like I would in other aircraft. I am guessing I did something wrong but am not entirely sure. By the way, the airplane is awesome! Once I get this resolved it should be smooth sailing! Thanks Again, Pete
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Post by garryrussell on Nov 18, 2009 14:50:30 GMT
Part of the problem is the overly complex installation instructions of HJG a/c in general. It's easier to install them in FSX like any other a/c. Aliasing panels/sounds as other a/c. Having all these extra folders allows for a greater probability of errors to occur. Complexity may appear impressive, and it will work, but keeping it simple saves frustration. Nope The problem is instructions not being followed to the letter. Anyone who can fly these models properly.....as there is a certain amount of complexity involved.... will be able to follow instructions. Trouble is folks tend to part read instructions then go do what they think it says (based on their previous experience) rather than what it actually says. Garry
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Post by scottieb on Nov 18, 2009 14:58:38 GMT
The only sound files that should go into the FSX main sound folder are panel related and are downloaded with the core panel. The engine sounds should be in the a/c folder. What you're hearing are panel sounds... gear, warnings, etc... not engine sounds. In the a/c cfg file... under [fltsim.0], "sound= ", sound should = the name of the sound folder within the DC-8 a/c folder, leave it blank...i.e. "sound= "... if the sound folder is just called "sound.".If it's something like "sound.whatever", then "whatever" would need to be added and would look like this..."sound=whatever" Happy sailing!
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Post by scottieb on Nov 18, 2009 15:02:55 GMT
The install instructions are overly complex... I install them in a much easier manner and have no difficulty flying ALL HJG a/c in FSX (with minor tweaks). But, they are your planes and your instructions, so you can tell people to do it as you like. I know there's an easier way to do it that works... for me, so, to prevent any hard feelings I'll keep it to my self.
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Post by psolov on Nov 18, 2009 17:11:31 GMT
The only sound files that should go into the FSX main sound folder are panel related and are downloaded with the core panel. The engine sounds should be in the a/c folder. What you're hearing are panel sounds... gear, warnings, etc... not engine sounds. In the a/c cfg file... under [fltsim.0], "sound= ", sound should = the name of the sound folder within the DC-8 a/c folder, leave it blank...i.e. "sound= "... if the sound folder is just called "sound.".If it's something like "sound.whatever", then "whatever" would need to be added and would look like this..."sound=whatever" Happy sailing! Thanks Scottieb, I will double check these items when I get home from work. Just as a quick response to one of the other posts about following instructions, I would definitely agree that these need to be followed to the letter. I do think though that when mistakes are made they are unintentional, and maybe more than likely are due to accidentally misinterpreting a line or two. I do consider myself to be very well versed in following instructions as I am a corporate tax CPA as well as a private real world pilot, but often times when you try something for the first time it takes a while to develop a leaning curve. Thanks again for everyones help.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 18, 2009 20:17:09 GMT
In everything we do here we like to "TRY" to be thorough .... and a lot of effort is applied to this for the benefit of everyone !!!! Whilst some of what we do here might appear complex I don't believe anything is "overely complex" .... and whatever complexity is apparent isn't there to impress either !!!! On the basis of many years experience doing all this .... I absolutely agree with Garry's (above) observations/comments .... because it's a fact !!!! Moving on now ...."PSOLOV" .... YES .... those panel sound files should all be installed inside the SOUND folder of FSX itself and not the Sound folder within your Aircraft Base Pack. This's likely the reason why you're hearing thumps, and bumps and horns, and whistles, and windrush .... but ..... no engine sounds at all .... because what you're currently hearing is all panel/gauge related audio. I believe, on the basis of what you've explained here, all you need to do is (a) ensure you've got the right files in the right folders .... as directed per the downloaded installation instructions and on-forum tutorials, and (b) ensure that you've got either the default Sound folder (from the aircraft basepack .... it contains just a SOUND.CFG file which I think is aliased to the MSFS B737) .... or .... that you download the appropriate DC8 soundpack from our "DOUGLAS SOUNDS" page and install it's "SOUND" folder inside you DC8 Aircraft Base Pack and to replace the default one.Here's a list of our DC8 soundpacks .... as recommended by us/me for each of our current DC8 class of aircraft .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hjgaircraftlistings&action=display&thread=1564I hope all this information helps you out ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Nov 18, 2009 21:39:54 GMT
... I'll keep it to my self.... No hard feelings at all from here, I've described two different approaches of installing HJG-aircraft in FSX. I'm very well aware of the fact that there are as many methods of installing as there are users more or less. Any easier way of doing it would be welcomed indeed. Please bear in mind that the two methods I've written takes care of not having multiple copies of the same files lying around, and thus having to update a lot of files whenever there is an update available... If you have an easier way to obtain the same result I would be more than willing to adapt it here letting more users be able to enjoy our aircraft if they find my instructions too complex :-)
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Post by psolov on Nov 18, 2009 22:48:48 GMT
Thanks again to all of you for your assistance, it is most appreciated. Everything works great now!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 19, 2009 2:51:55 GMT
Our pleasure "PSOLOV" .... and we're glad to know you can now begin to enjoy everything properly ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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