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Post by anels9 on May 12, 2013 2:35:31 GMT
ive also noticed the window frame on the real aircraft is white,
along with the pylons youll notice theres a metal strip that goes upwards. and finally on the tail, the flag seems a little close to the rear, could be brought forward more and maybe made longer? but not totally sure on that one
and regarding the colours of the engine, i believe theyre a dark blue like on the nose decal and top of the tail
and on the wing where the landing light is, that strip along the wing is metal, not white. i think i may have given some false information on that sorry
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Post by anels9 on May 12, 2013 3:02:21 GMT
and is there a possibility you could do the tire (side wall) textures darker too please?
and the rear tail-plane is also white like the wings except for the bit of grey metal on the leading edge
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 12, 2013 3:05:05 GMT
I'll move the flag slightly forward a bit and it actually is stretched quite a bit. The metal strip going upwards on the pylons, I'll make that change. Concerning the dark blue on the nacelles, to be honest that color is sooo dark it almost looks black specially at the tail. I did notice the nose section is infact a dark blue color but it is very very dark, i'm not even sure if it transitions from dark blue to black. About the window frames, I think your eyes are playing tricks on you! I'll try to make it as accurate as I can but remember, it will never be 100% accurate to the last very microscopic detail as you seem to desire!  |
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 12, 2013 3:16:08 GMT
and is there a possibility you could do the tire (side wall) textures darker too please? and the rear tail-plane is also white like the wings except for the bit of grey metal on the leading edge can you show me these with pictures? the tire texture side wall I believe cannot be changed on this aircraft model, I do not see a stripe anywhere on the textures for doing so. The tail plane? do you mean the horizontal stabilizer? where are you getting these details from? If you have more photographs, please post links or post them here. |
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Post by anels9 on May 12, 2013 3:27:55 GMT
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 12, 2013 3:52:31 GMT
I see what you are talking about on the wing and horizontal stab...about the windows...you can't really use a 707 with a different livery to verify if the borders are white or not...aircraft borders are rarely painted for obvious reasons...I magnified the first photograph link you gave on this forum and I can see a white faint grey border around the windows, specially noticeable around the area where the stripe runs upwards and encounters the windows.... I'll get these changes in when I can. |
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Post by anels9 on May 12, 2013 4:02:28 GMT
That's fine, I just wasnt totally sure, very hard only able to base a livery off two photos.
But yes, im glad you're able to see what i was talking about with the wing and stabilizer.
Are you able to make the wing section shiney too?
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 12, 2013 5:15:48 GMT
That's fine, I just wasnt totally sure, very hard only able to base a livery off two photos. But yes, im glad you're able to see what i was talking about with the wing and stabilizer. Are you able to make the wing section shiney too? Yes, that is done with alpha channels by adjusting the greyishness but it can be easy to 'over do it' if your not careful. Don't worry, i'll work on this ti'll we get it right. |
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Post by anels9 on May 12, 2013 7:20:39 GMT
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 12, 2013 23:53:33 GMT
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Post by anels9 on May 13, 2013 5:50:06 GMT
Ah the dates! Good find. And that jetphotos.net photo I did spot but because of the other two i didnt think id post it.
I thought it was blue, but having a look at the photos i gave you and your pics, your paint did convince me they were dark grey/black. haha
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 13, 2013 6:14:16 GMT
Ok this thing just had a complete massive overhaul...  Now I have to redo the tail just a bit add the symbol and still lots left but almost done. However, at this point with the left side of the fuselage, everything is a bit of a gamble because we don't really know for sure what the left full painted side looks like  no recent photographs at all taken, this plane is just way tooo NEWLY painted. So we can either wait till a more recent photograph turns up to get it right or I hand it over to HJG like this but it MAY require an UPDATE later on. Sort of against HJG standards to paint stuff that doesn't really exist yet but I guess this is an exception. I'll keep all the .PSD files intact in the event I may need to fix it later on. I'll give a final preview in the new few hours if I do get it completed. |
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Post by anels9 on May 13, 2013 14:39:46 GMT
Awesome! Love your work.  Well as it will be added to the database by HJG, im not sure when theyre going to update the DB again (next month?) so it could be released when finished and then the next database update, it could be then updated again (the paint). |
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Post by +mrfaosfx on May 13, 2013 21:52:11 GMT
Remember that I said the tail had different shades of colors on the left and right? Well... THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DID!!! The left tail shot shows the fully painted livery on the right side of the fuselage and is the only photograph that is RECENT. The tail on the right is when the aircraft was NOT FULLY PAINTED not displaying titles. I do believe on Marks theory of the lighting conditions affecting the shades of colors but in this photograph here you can see on the comparison that the difference between these two tails is TREMENDOUS to the point were the different can be CLEARLY seen! That is the reason why I painted the tail in different shades of colors and I usually have a sharp eye for things like this. What do you guys think? This is a rather touchy issue... I'm going to base the colors on the right side of the tail and apply that to the left side of the tail is what I'm going to do... |
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Post by anels9 on May 14, 2013 3:19:58 GMT
I think because they are different, release it, and if it needs updating, just update it. but i agree, because both sides are different its hard to go with one or the other. |
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no recent photographs at all taken, this plane is just way tooo NEWLY painted.