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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Sept 30, 2014 12:41:59 GMT
As requested
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Post by johnq on Sept 30, 2014 20:47:34 GMT
What a beautiful bird! Well done Tony Comparing this preview to real pictures, it looks pretty spot on.
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Post by johnq on Sept 30, 2014 20:50:48 GMT
This will seem nitpicky, but I did notice some minor inaccuracies. I don't want to come off the wrong way. I truly appreciate you doing this for me. I was just wondering if it would be alright if I could suggest a couple minor changes before you release this repaint.
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Post by thegetter on Oct 4, 2014 12:52:31 GMT
Gotta Love "HERMAN" TheGetter!
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Post by johnq on Oct 4, 2014 14:03:03 GMT
Herman the duck is definitely up there with some of my all time favorite logos.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Oct 5, 2014 9:11:56 GMT
Johnq be nitpicky.. if its a fix I can do I will do it
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Post by johnq on Oct 6, 2014 15:23:19 GMT
I just annotated your screenshot along with real-world images so you can get an idea of the differences. Attachment Deleted
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Post by johnq on Oct 6, 2014 15:31:03 GMT
Also, the nose cone should not have the black area on the front, but instead should be all white.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Oct 6, 2014 15:44:14 GMT
I will revisit this one, however the tail logo I checked and it is about the right size and placement
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Oct 9, 2014 14:12:06 GMT
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Post by johnq on Oct 9, 2014 23:04:39 GMT
This looks very nice Tony. Could you link the photo you were referring to with the black circle on the nose? This makes me curious because in all of the pictures I've seen so far, the nose cones are all white. Example: c1.staticflickr.com/7/6011/6013827344_88e8c2cf20_z.jpg
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Oct 10, 2014 7:08:03 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Oct 10, 2014 13:06:48 GMT
It´s not uncommon to find aircraft within any particular airline fleet supporting subtle variations of livery details. Such variations can reflect the time/period .... and include details such as black or non-coloured nose radomes .... as well as including the like of larger/smaller/thicker or repositioned titles and logos too. At HJG we "DO" strive for accuracy .... where possible .... usually only limited (or even frustrated) by either the lack of reference resource available and/or the diemensions and contours of various 3D models which in some cases does also impair desirable accuracy. Folk making repaint requests do, perhaps, need to bear these facts in mind Given the extent of my own personal knowledge of such details, limitations, and these particular MD80 models too .... I think Tony´s done "a pretty good job" here Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 15:59:37 GMT
It´s not uncommon to find aircraft within any particular airline fleet supporting subtle variations of details. Such variation can reflect the time/period .... and include details such as black or non-coloured nose radomes .... as well as the like of large/smaller/thicker or repositioned titles and logos too. Mark C BOF/CO ...and of course, there are: Leases - Dan-Air's 727 G-BHYT regularly was leased out during the winter and sported the Lacsa c/s with Dan-Air titles (1983) on return then later, Sun Country titles over the Dan-Air c/s (1985). Not forgetting the Boeing 727-100s leased from ATA to BA as linkjed on a separate thread by Peter Liddell (thanks BTW). Part replacements - the most famous examples are where airlines swapped spares and despite old rivalries, BA and Pan Am often swapped engines complete with painted cowlings for their Stratocruiser fleets. Another example is BIA BAC 1-11 G-AYWB pictured in John K Morton's Lost Airline Liveries (Airlife), which has a nosecone from a similar 1-11 although the cheatlines are not aligned properly for the replacement. Indeed, BA often had Tridents and 1-11s flying around with odd rudders and although less common these days, there was at least one B757 that sported a replacement nosecone a few years back. I agree that it is difficult to represent all of these for a site like HJG and in the case of the BIA 1-11 not aesthetically pleasing anyway.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Oct 10, 2014 16:17:28 GMT
It´s actually possible to represent them (most of them at least) in cases of mutiple variations of a particular airline/operator livery (in fact we´ve already done that to a large extent in respect of the the MEXICANA B727´s and the BRANIFF liveries) .... provided that adequate/good quality reference resourses are first available and that such liveries can then be applied to 3D models with relative ease. However .... in some cases it´s particular issues associated with some livery details in relation to the contours/surfaces of some 3D models which can make the replication some liveries either very challenging/difficult, or, completely impractical. Possibly .... the only other limiting factor (in the case of repaints requests at least) is the fact that any particular repaint request must first "APPEAL" to an FS artist with the ability to be able to reproduce it Mark C BOG/CO
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