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Post by tokolosh on Jan 4, 2022 15:58:23 GMT
I have installed the Trident 1E base pack, but the textures of British Airways G-AVYE do not show. There is a typo In the aircraft.cfg: "texture=british_airways_1982_1e-140_g-vye". I have corrected this, but it still doesn't show up. Is there something else I must do? Thanks a lot.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 4, 2022 19:25:07 GMT
"TOKE's" .... can you copy & paste your CFG based FLTSIM.XX data .... just the data for each of the 4 TRIDENT 1E textures only and not the entire CFG.
I need to see exactly what you "currently" have in relation to each of the other textures .... rather than just the BA 1982 subject alone.
You're right .... there is a (minor) typo associated with the registration for the BBA 1982 texture, but even so, as the TEXTURE= data line in the CFG/FLTSIM.XX data and TEXTURE FOLDER NAME for this particular subject both display precisely the same (minor) typo the texture should still display .... regardless .... at least it is for me and by virtue of the earlier preview images.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by tokolosh on Jan 4, 2022 20:20:04 GMT
Hi Mark, the others show perfectly. It's only the 1982 texture that shows as a grey, textureless plane. Should I post the entries to this board or PM you?
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Post by tokolosh on Jan 4, 2022 20:46:44 GMT
Hi Mark again! Your answer got me thinking there was maybe a file corrupted when installing, so I copied the texture folder over again and voila! It's showing now. Thanks for your time.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 4, 2022 20:54:30 GMT
OK .... now understand you to mean it "is" displaying, but, without any texturing. Unless the texture folder has been corrupted (very rare but not unheard of) that means the name of your BA 1982 texture folder "is not" in precise agreement with the TEXTURE= data line within the two FLTSIM.XX entries within your CFG and for that particular texture. Please recheck this .... and failing a resolution on the basic of this advice post your FLTSIM.XX data "HERE". FYI ... everything should read as follows .... TEXTURE FOLDER NAME: texture.british_airways_1982_1e-140_g-avyeFLTSIM.4 andf 5 TEXTURE= DATA LINES: texture=british_airways_1982_1e-140_g-avyeEdit and check the above data is consistent with what you have (as I said earlier it should still have displayed because the minor typo was/is consistent with both lots of data supplied. When/If you edit this data make sure your CFG/FLTSIM.XX entries for both the VC and NO VC (that's entries 4 and 5 .... I think) are "both consistent" with the above advice. "TOKE's" .... I may not be able to investigate this for you today (got a bit on at the moment), but, "WILL " investigate .... and respond accordingly .... if still necessary Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by tokolosh on Jan 4, 2022 22:32:57 GMT
Hi Mark, thank you so much for your trouble. The "problem" is solved (see my 2nd answer above). Something must have gone wrong during copying since after reinstalling it the texture now shows, and I'm using the original folder name and texture entry! Your original answer prompted me to try that Thanks again.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 5, 2022 0:05:21 GMT
Looks like we were replying over each other No problem "TOKE's". These things can. and do, sometimes happen .... albeit rarely Enjoy the TRIDENT's .... but .... load'em and try'n fly'em in accordance with my recommended procedures as per SECTION's 5 and 6 of our online and forum based manual. You'll find the new TRIDENT 1C to be "the most challenging" of the TRIDENTS to fly .... by virtue of its quite high weight and lower thrust rating. The new TRIDENT SUPER 3B should keep you concentrating too .... by virtue of its very high weight. If you're using the original DMFS TRIDENT 2E and -3B base packs, then, replace the FDE (CFG's) inside these packages with the new version/s we've uploaded. These new FDE's are separate FDE UPDATE packages/files "hilited in yellow" within the respective TRIDENT 2 and 3 downloads sections. The new TRIDENT 1C, -1E, and -SUPER 3B already have this new FDE incorporated into their base packs and which doesn't need replacing. Finally .... use all of these TRIDENT simulations with Benoit's "NEW VERSION" sound packs for each type .... these really put the icing on the cake .... along with George's panel "FIXES" too The TRIDENT' are a nice simulation to fly. They may not have the climb performance of the B727, but, they're certainly "a lot faster" than the B727 in the cruise .... and their panels feature more up-market kit than the B727 too and especially with their advanced Auto-Approach/Flare/Land system. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by tokolosh on Jan 5, 2022 10:35:33 GMT
I've been using David Maltby's planes since about 2006 and am really delighted that HJG has adopted them. The new FDEs are really superb, as well as the new sounds. A big thumbs up to HJG.
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Post by ozflyer on Jan 21, 2023 20:19:01 GMT
I've been using David Maltby's planes since about 2006 and am really delighted that HJG has adopted them. The new FDEs are really superb, as well as the new sounds. A big thumbs up to HJG. How can I see of I have the latest FDE's? Were they updated since the downloads are now here? I love Tridents!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 21, 2023 21:04:27 GMT
Go to the TRIDENT downloads pages. Look for the "YELLOW" placrds with "RED" text as follows .... TRIDENT 1/2 PAGE Trident 2E FDE Update (for FS2004 and FSX) December 2021
TRIDENT 3 PAGE Trident 3B FDE Update (for FS2004 and FSX) December 2021The above packages each contain the new/updated FDE's .... as explained within "SECTION 1" of our following-linked forum based TRIDENT manual (similar also for the VC10's). TRIDENT MANUAL tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9975/hs121-trident-manualVC10 MANUAL tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9976/vc10-manualVC10/C1K MANUAL tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9977/vc10-c1k-manualPLEASE NOTE CAREFULLY THOUGH .... The above referenced TRIDENT 2E package contains our updated FDE for "TRIDENT 2E" only .... and the above referenced TRIDENT 3B package contains our updated FDE for "TRIDENT 3B" only. DM only ever produced these 2 base packs for his TRIDENTS. His base packs "for these same 2 TRIDENT types as are uploaded here" contain the original DM FDE. We didn't want to mess around with the content of his original packages .... SO .... we made our FDE updates for the TRIDENT 2E and -3B "separate and optional files" intended to replace the original DM data if people so wish. The base pack/texture combo files for "TRIDENT 1, -1C, -1E, and SUPER 3B" (only) were each compiled by us/HJG .... not DM. These base back/Texture combo files each already have our updated FDE included with them .... there are no separate files to be added. We did this to further expand the original DM TRIDENT (and VC10) flight line. These updates were released by us during December 2021 .... after our original release of the DMFS simulation during July 2021. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by ozflyer on Jan 22, 2023 0:21:50 GMT
Ah ok. Makes sense. Kinda. Because I had installed in the past the Trident 2/3 from the CBFS site. I forgot there were no Trident 1 from that site. If I recall. I think what was confusing me is the Trident 2 & 2E package here. Because in the DMFS Trident 2 aircraft folder, the descriptions of each livery/airline differ in the CFG file. They're all 'Trident 2's', but the airline specific description says some are 1E's, some are 2E'.s So the HJG 2E update from here is representing the actual 2E as opposed to the original DMFS Trident 2 package which was kind of a hybrid 1E/2E??? Please let me be right as my head is starting to smoke from overuse. Either way, so glad they're all available. Blasting along at Mach 0.84-0.86 with ease is fun. As is winding her up to 0.88-0.90. Ssshhhh!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 22, 2023 1:31:03 GMT
As I earlier mentioned .... The FDE's contained within DM's TRIDENT 2E and TRIDENT 3B base pack/texture combo files remain precisely as he/DM compiled these. Again we didn't want to mess around with the content of his original files. "CORRECT" .... and you've got it There are 3 TRIDENT 1E textures inside DM's TRIDENT 2E base pack .... which he, himself, acknowledges. TRIDENT 1E and -2E really need to be separate due to their differing specifications, Among documentation accompanying our own TRIDENT 1E base pack/texture combo file these other -1E's (currently in DM's original TRIDENT 2E base pack/texture combo file) are identified. Our recommendation is these 3 textures be added to our TRIDENT 1E specific base pack/texture combo file. See the following named document inside our TRIDENT 1E base pack/texture combo file .... OTHER TRIDENT 1E TEXTURE ADDITIONSThe FDE contained with this -1E (and that accompanying our TRIDENT 1C and -1 base pack/texture combo files also) is compiled in accordance with our updates. The FDE "updates" we compiled for the TRIDENT 2E and 3B correct the weights, MOI's, and fuel capacities .... whilst also adding aerodynamic enhancements in accordance with our own knowledge of TRIDENT performance/s .... it 's this data only that's swapped into the original DM base packs for both of these 2 simulations. Once again and just for added clarity only .... The FDE contained within the HJG released TRIDENT 1, -1c, and -1E base pack/texture combo files needs "NO UPDATING" having also been compiled in accordance with our knowledge of TRIDENT specifications and performance/s. Same applies to the VC10's too. Similar will apply later to the COMET's and ONE-ELEVEN's as well, but, this's a while off yet .... the FDE updates for these simulations (such "IS" needed by our own assessment) "HAVE NOT" yet been released. Just follow the Installation Instructions accompanying each file (all documentation) .... and if necessary cross-check this information with what's also stated within the forum based manuals too. It's all very easy and straight-forward YEAH .... it does all make sense (once one understands the aircraft being simulated) and which is why we opted to do what we've done .... and which "DOES" improve these simulations Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by ozflyer on Jan 22, 2023 1:59:59 GMT
Appreciate the reply. Much clearer thank you.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 24, 2023 1:12:03 GMT
TRIDENT was capable of "phenomenally high cruising speeds at altitude". During flight testing and demonstration the aircraft was accelerated to a sustained MACH 0.96 .... just in excess of its designed MACH 0.95 maximum (a lot faster than the B727, but, without B727 payload and range capability). In civil service though, and in the interests of both safety and operator economy, MACH 0.81 through MACH 0.84 at cruising altitude was typical. The TRIDENT simulations we offer have been tuned to perform quite nicely as follows .... - TRIDENT 1/1C .... MACH 0.81
- TRIDENT 1E/2E .... MACH 0.84
- TRIDENT 3B/SUPER 3B .... MACH 0.87These observations have been noted at the virtual FL310 .... in FS2004. These simulations can, and will, go faster .... of course .... but if doing so the one will also begin to observe the following start to occurr .... - The faster one goes then the more the nose will be observed to trim down in accordance with speed accumulated at altitude .... until the simulation achieves a perfectly/unaturally level (0*/"ZERO degree" indication both in the panel AI gauges/s and in external FS viewing mode. - The faster one goes then more power is also required to do so .... and "UP" goes the F/F indications accordingly too .... and the N1 engine gauges indications may also then begin to exceed the N2 gauge indications (not uncommon in FS). My recommended performance for each TRIDENT type is therefore based on "the best inflight performance/s (subject to weight/loading) and for the most accurate gauges indications .... as well as for the most economical performance too". No need to go "B-A-L-L-S T-O T-H-E W-A-L-L .... since the TRIDENT's don't go uphill fast (although a shallower ROC than I prescribe will help), and once settled into the cruise one will have to slow down before going down anyway .... so .... any advantages promoted by faster cruise segments are probably in vain/lost in the descent. Therefore .... fly "economically" It's just as enjoyable .... and a lot more "realistic" too See my Basic Flying Guides per "SECTION 6" of our following-linked forum based TRIDENT manual ..... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9975/hs121-trident-manualThe recommended procedures "DO" work .... if correctly implemented Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by ozflyer on Jan 25, 2023 2:02:57 GMT
Yes I do agree. I usually plan around the 0.84 range in the 1E/2E. They seem to float along quite nicely at this speed and with a reasonable fuel burn.
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