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Post by walterleo on May 7, 2020 13:00:14 GMT
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Post by alex94 on May 8, 2020 0:30:45 GMT
I personally prefer edgars external model over PT's. PT's has too many mapping issues
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 8, 2020 7:43:01 GMT
It's gotta be remembered though that the PT model is older .... and it's only representaive of the IL-62M too, but, not the earlier/original aircraft version. Like Walter .... I've no issues, at all, with the PT simulation and which remains "my personal preference". In so far as its mapping's concerned .... WELL .... from a texturing perspective the (any) 3D model can only support what's compiled to be adapted onto it .... or .... whatever "more talented" FS texture artists might be able to additionally edit into standard texture BMP's for any model .... and for these reasons the quality of some textures, for "any" 3D model, will always vary accordingly and by virtue of the fact that no two different FS artists paint alike anyway. I've "almost" every texture that's ever been publicly released for the PT IL-62 .... including a couple of unrealeased edits which Camilo and I worked up together .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8430/ve-wanted-quite.... and along with a couple more produced by our very own Peter LIDDELL also .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8387/bit-more-western-il-62I'm "very content" with the model .... the PT panel (and Panel Fix files) by Cristiano "Neddu" CANUTI .... and its supporting sound pack by Mike MAARSE .... and I'm also "more than content" with by far the marjority of textures that've ever been produced for it as well .... a lot of which I presented "HERE" (albeit these images are now being imposed upon by PB) .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8367/western-62m-flown-german-airforceOH AND DID I SAY (?) .... the PT simulation flies very well/believably too .... "provided one flies it right/properly to start with of course"  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by walterleo on May 8, 2020 8:59:47 GMT
Hi Friends: Edgars FSX edition: www.avsimrus.com/f/fs2004-aircrafts-40/fs2004-fsx-aeroproyecto-il-62m-v2-0-58065/downloadIn that versión the dogs teeth on the wings leading edge is missing which is a serious defect as that was typical for the IL-62 and the reason that airplanes designer avoided Deep stall problems.  But seems in a later download for FS9 that problema was corrected.  Canutis panel is the "green one" I am using as well the soundpack of Mike Maarse. The PT and Canutis panel can be made working together with Edgars outside model, so its a question of preference at least in FS9. Dont know if these panels will work in FSX also. For flying sucessfully both simulations one must load the airplane within its design limits. Kind regards Walter |
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Post by Falcon on May 8, 2020 13:32:47 GMT
thanks Walter, I was looking for a new plane for my hanger.
Stay safe,
Denny aka falcon
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Post by walterleo on May 8, 2020 19:15:08 GMT
Hi Friends: Regarding the maping problems with PT IL-62M: Heiko Floeter aka Pipe released repaints correcting this issues. BUT: At "friendlyflusi" the downloads are not available any more. My German Airforce 11+21 IL62M as shown above is such a repaint in comparison to Edgars model as shown above I think its considerable better:  Kind regards Walter |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 8, 2020 20:08:54 GMT
As I recall .... I performed "a bit of texture manipulation" among some of the textures I have for the PT IL-62M (other textures didn't need it) in order to try'n standardize some features .... and which has since added to "my own contentment" in regard to what I currently now have. Pity my above linked imagery is now disadvantaged by PB as these might be more obvious among these images .... BUT .... I just don't have time, and this particular point in time, to start "pissing-around" with images and image hosting services  .... beyond what I need to attend to in order to prioritize other matter here and on a more-or-less weekly basis  Again .... I'm very pleased with the PT IL-62M .... in so far as what I have of it and the way it's configured to run on my own system. I agree with Walter .... it's a very nice simulation (and for that reason I have no hesitation recommending it to anyone .... as it's every part as good as anything offered by HJG Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 8, 2020 20:35:14 GMT
Another very good Russian simulation is "this one" .... for the TUPOLEV TU-144 KONKORDSKI ....   The CONCORDE simulation we currently offer here (just pity I could never get it's intended/customized panel to work properly .... hence the stand-in alternative panel option we currently have) offers valuable "BASIC" experience, in accordance with the CONCORDE flying guide we provide also, in order to eventually be able to fly the TU-144 well .... since "IN FS" the handling of both simulations is "similar" .... albeit the TU-144 is "a bit faster". Just the thing one needs to be able to go a long way, quickly, whenever time's "limited". The TU-144 is "a great simulation" .... once one gets used to it (but that sort of learning curve applies to anything/everything else too) and it all, including its panel too, eventually becomes "INTINCTIVE" with practice. I've found the TU-144 a nice simulation to fly .... until something like this happens and which I "just happened to catch on camera" at the time ....   Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by walterleo on May 10, 2020 0:04:44 GMT
Hi Friends:
Some IL-62 gossip, most are true
1) The Il 62 is the biggest airliner having only mechanicaly actuated flight controls.
2) Its Kuznetzov engines gave considerable troubles due to undersiezed rollerbearings in the plain IL-62.
3) The PB-NV navigation computer was a headache only managable by very experienceced navigators.
4) The Russion INS was maligned by the crews as it needed an hour for run up and could be toppled by boarding passengers.
5) INTERFLUG bought only two sets of the this INS for its entire fleet, installing it only for its transatlantic flights. The working was suboptimal one flight went 30 NM off corse.
6) Later on CUBANA was top in servicing and flying the IL-62M they and AEROFLOT made the IL-62M to a very safe and realiable airliner much better as its contemporaries (5% hull losses).
7) CUBANA had tripple INS and double GPS systems instead of the PB-NV.
8) The IL-62 had a dangerous design flaw at the start of its service life: The containers for the very inflamable deice fluid were situated in the rear besides of the conducts of hot air. The compartment had no fire control and was invisible to the crew. DM-SEA went down out of control in flames taking the life of all 156 onboard.
Kind regards
Walter
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